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Old 03-28-2024, 08:39 AM  
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I'll update the rosters and opening day lineup when its officially released.

2024 Opening Day roster.
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For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year, here are some of the historical threads going back to 2006.
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Old 05-13-2024, 03:40 PM   #286
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The part about that that really burns my ass is that Mo made a great hire and then fired him after making the playoffs because he publicly said what Mo was denying. All ego
"I proved I can hire a good manager when I hired that guy i fired in a fit of pique because he didn't genuflect low enough for a man of my accomplishments..."

Maybe not the best argument I've heard recently...

Mozeliak really is a one who sucks the penis, but they just all share the same common affliction and that's why none of them can see it in the rest.

DeWitt and his stupid kid are so damn convinced of their superiority that they have no concept of what a smug dickhead Mozeliak is in his own right.

I think I still have it in my signature block, but it applies perfectly here:

"When you're wearing rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags..."

The DeWitts are blind to this shit because they're just as infected by it as Mozeliak is.

Mozeliak is an incompetent weasel and a prickish charlatan. But the problem has clearly gone well past him. And the more the DeWitts speak, the more obvious that fact becomes.

I don't WANT to see them fire the entire leadership team and replace them. Because then they might actually get to experience success. I do not want that for this family.

As a Cardinals fan, the only satisfactory outcome is a sale. And sure, that's the DeWitts liquidating a $50 million asset into something like $3 billion so they win even by 'losing' - but that stupid one who sucks the penis kid of theirs will have pissed that away in a decade.
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Old 05-15-2024, 07:27 PM   #287
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Jordan Walker over his first 61 plate appearances with Triple-A Memphis:

.315/.377/.389 with 0 HR.

9.8 BB%, 13.1% K, 104 wRC+

Keep in mind that Triple-A pitching is vastly inferior to the majors. Eno Sarris has a figure called STUFF+ that rates the pitches of hurlers. If 100 is average on the STUFF+ scale, Sarris has found that the STUFF+ figure for an average Triple-A pitcher is 87.
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Jordan Walker over his first 61 plate appearances with Triple-A Memphis:

.315/.377/.389 with 0 HR.

9.8 BB%, 13.1% K, 104 wRC+

Keep in mind that Triple-A pitching is vastly inferior to the majors. Eno Sarris has a figure called STUFF+ that rates the pitches of hurlers. If 100 is average on the STUFF+ scale, Sarris has found that the STUFF+ figure for an average Triple-A pitcher is 87.
ISO of .074.

Same shit, worse pitching and worse defense.

Balls are getting though AAA defenses that normally wouldn't, so he has an unreasonably high BA. The power is still shite and is seemingly worse than it was even at the big league level.

Keep him there.

If you can't give you an ISO of .150 with that raw power and those tools, then he's doing it wrong.

He's every bit the mess that he was when he went down. The entire staff, major and minor leagues, needs to be fired into the sun. They cannot fix him.
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ISO of .074.

Same shit, worse pitching and worse defense.

Balls are getting though AAA defenses that normally wouldn't, so he has an unreasonably high BA. The power is still shite and is seemingly worse than it was even at the big league level.

Keep him there.

If you can't give you an ISO of .150 with that raw power and those tools, then he's doing it wrong.

He's every bit the mess that he was when he went down. The entire staff, major and minor leagues, needs to be fired into the sun. They cannot fix him.
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One of the few things they got right recently.
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Best season ever for a pitcher? ERA of 1.12.
Gibby was great, and one of my all time favorites the 13 shutouts that year is itself amazing especially compared to the norm the last 3 decades. He was such a good athlete, you wonder if he could have been more dominant longer without all those innings, but there was no way to pull him out during that era and really was a badge of honor for all pitchers.

The one comparison I would say to best ever year would be Pedro's 2000 year. A 1.74 ERA in the "Steroid Era" when the league average ERA was 4.76.

In 1968 "The Year of the Pitcher" the league average was something like 2.98. Lowering the mound wasn't just because of Gibson.

I still would choose Gibby's year, but understand the argument for Martinez.
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