Who do you not want the Chiefs to draft?

[RunKC]

We’ve all talked about guys we love and want to draft, but who is on your “I will not be happy if the Chiefs draft them?” list?

Gonna add onto this but so far I have:

Shemar Stewart
Cameron Williams
Tyliek Williams
Kaleb Johnson
Marcus Mbow
Tyler Booker

[RunKC]

It’s the injury history that scares me. Sure he’ll heal but this injury has ****ed a lot of players careers.

It ended Victor Cruz’s career, all but ended Jerod Mayo’s. Drake Jackson had this injury damn near 2 years ago and the 49ers aren’t sure if be will be back.

It’s tough. Maybe he can overcome it? Jimmy Graham did and had a few great years after his injury.

It’s tough. I just don’t think he’s gonna be available to us if he’s cleared. Every team is looking at his knee. Feels like if he’s there for us it will mean that every other team didn’t believe in his medicals.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yes, but the injury didn't happen yesterday. The recovery process began a while ago. They get to see this guy up close, and he's already moving around laterally. Our medical staff is as good as it gets, is it not?

Why is it so hard to say the Chiefs and their medical staff will know A LOT more than we do? It's just a matter of fact.

If they truly have no ****ing clue, he won't be the pick at 31.

It's a physiological question that lies more in the realm of PT at this point than purely medical. And yes, in terms of that, having a great staff to estimate the regained explosion and ROM and so on will be important. Even with that, until he hits a football field, though, it's all just conjecture.

You championed taking guys coming off Achilles tears a few years back and found out the ROI wasn't good. I'm surprised you're this adamant about a similarly detrimental injury.

I would not take a chance on it in round 1, I just wouldn't. There is too much risk involved. Could he be great again? Absolutely. Is it likely? Not based on historical results. I'd take a shot on that in round 2. Round 1, I want more of a sure thing.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kccrow

It's a physiological question that lies more in the realm of PT at this point than purely medical. And yes, in terms of that, having a great staff to estimate the regained explosion and ROM and so on will be important. Even with that, until he hits a football field, though, it's all just conjecture.

You championed taking guys coming off Achilles tears a few years back and found out the ROI wasn't good. I'm surprised you're this adamant about a similarly detrimental injury.

I would not take a chance on it in round 1, I just wouldn't. There is too much risk involved. Could he be great again? Absolutely. Is it likely? Not based on historical results. I'd take a shot on that in round 2. Round 1, I want more of a sure thing.

This is what you aren't understanding. I'm just deferring to the staff on injuries, as I always have. I simply grade the player and argue for the player. Since we don't have enough information the majority of the time, I don't even bother with the injury stuff in terms of my personal evaluation.

[staylor26]

Also, there are quite a few guys I'd prefer over Simmons.

Nolen
Harmon
Mykel
Scourton
Stewart

I'd put Simmons in that tier with Henderson, Conerly, etc. because of the uncertainty if you're putting a gun to my head.

[SAGA45]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What I don't understand about the people saying Josh Simmons is that if the Chiefs do in fact take him, they're clearly 100% confident with the medicals. If this is simply about the injury, I don't understand putting him on the list.

But the Chiefs have NOT drafted him. Not yet, at least. So, until then, some folks are OUT on Simmons and it's easily understandable given the track record for this particular injury.

Now, if the Chiefs do take him then your stance has some merit. But until then, it shouldn't be hard to understand where some folks are coming from at all.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by SAGA45

But the Chiefs have NOT drafted him. Not yet, at least. So, until then, some folks are OUT on Simmons and it's easily understandable given the track record for this particular injury.

Now, if the Chiefs do take him then your stance has some merit. But until then, it shouldn't be hard to understand where some folks are coming from at all.

So then he shouldn't be on your list, because it's not that you don't want the Chiefs to draft him, you're just concerned about the injury lol.

It's really simple.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree don't want to ruin Run's thread.

[SAGA45]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree don't want to ruin Run's thread.

No, I see where we're misunderstanding each other. I was referring strictly to the thread title. But in the OP, it alters the topic:

Title: "Who do you not want the Chiefs to draft?"
OP: "who is on your “I will not be happy if the Chiefs draft them?” list?"

I see where you were coming from now. That's my bad.

[Couch-Potato]

I’m worried that Dylan Sampson doesn't convert to the pros

[duncan_idaho]

Dylan Sampson
Josh Simmons

[kccrow]

Here's my concrete list, love it or hate it...

DE Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M
CB Maxwell Hairston, Kentucky
DE James Pearce, Tennessee
OG Tyler Booker, Alabama
OT Cameron Williams, Texas
TE Harold Fannin, Bowling Green
DE Oluwafemi Oladejo, UCLA
WR Xavier Restrepo, Miami
WR Arian Smith, Georgia

[el borracho]

I would prefer Thomas or Porter (past the 1st round) but what's wrong with Hairston?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by el borracho

I would prefer Thomas or Porter (past the 1st round) but what's wrong with Hairston?

Don't like his play with his back to the ball, and I absolutely despise his tackling. He's a 3rd round zone corner getting pumped up to the 1st because he ran fast. No thanks. Everyone has their flavor, he's just not mine.

[Tribal Warfare]

Treveyon Henderson, he has all the makings of being a broke dick RB. Missed games with a foot injury which required surgery.

[bigjosh]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Treveyon Henderson, he has all the makings of being a broke dick RB. Missed games with a foot injury which required surgery.

I think this is the fist name in this thread i dont agree with


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[smithandrew051]

I will say though. All the names I “hate” would be fine if drafted at certain slots.

I think my hate list is really based upon where we’d likely have to take them.