If Josh Simmons falls to 31... - Page 2

staylor26 · 03-20-2025, 02:08 PM

Do you take him? This is assuming the medicals check out and he should be back to 100% at some point in the near future.

staylor26 · 03-20-2025, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45

The negative stuff doesn't usually surface until about a week or two before the draft, if not a few days before. If reports on his knee are still positive around that time frame then he won't be there at #31.

Sure, but considering that they're putting it out there that he's doing so well that he might even have his own personal combine, that's a good sign it's not just talk.

Plus, with an injury like this, it's still honestly shocking that there are no negative reports at all.

kccrow · 03-20-2025, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Sure, but considering that they're putting it out there that he's doing so well that he might even have his own personal combine, that's a good sign it's not just talk.

Plus, with an injury like this, it's still honestly shocking that there are no negative reports at all.

I'll definitely believe it when I see it regarding the personal combine, though I've read the same chatter.

IF he does have one AND he looks like the player he was, he won't make it to 31. That said, if he did and all that were true, that'd probably prompt me changing my tune.

I don't see any of it as likely though.

Dante84 · 03-20-2025, 05:13 PM

Maybe he drops like a rock ala Trey Smith and we get him in the 2nd or 3rd.

BlackHelicopters · 03-20-2025, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

Maybe he drops like a rock ala Trey Smith and we get him in the 2nd or 3rd.

I speak fluent sarcasm as well. Good one.

RedinTexas · 03-20-2025, 05:25 PM

For what little the simulators are worth, I see him available at #31 about 2/3 of the time.

Couch-Potato · 03-20-2025, 05:48 PM

Crow’s medical research paper is highly compelling, but I’m for taking him and rolling the dice.

Posted this in a couple threads already: https://bsky.app/profile/brettkollma.../3lkqrgfsfle2h

Not a complete view of pass blocking capability, but Simmons is #1 on the list.

philfree · 03-20-2025, 08:38 PM

We need to fix the LT and quit playing musical chairs at that position. So yeah draft him and let him heal up 100% and not be forced into duty. When he's ready and the best option make him the starter for the next four or five years.

Stryker · 03-21-2025, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

He wouldn't make it to 31 if the medicals check out, right?

Just saw Mike Band's mock has us trading up to 24 with the Vikings to get Simmons.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-mo...-mike-band-1-0

kccrow · 03-22-2025, 08:08 AM

In this case, the issue with the media is they still don't understand the injury. I keep reading every mock stating "torn ACL" when it's been clear it's a Patellar tendon injury.

ACL injuries are still extremely worrisome but repairs have become commonplace in the NFL with little worry that a player can come back.

Patellar tendon injuries, while you'd think would be a better situation given there's blood flow to the injury site, don't have a glowing track record.

Simmons may be one of the few success stories but he just happens to fit into the demographic of players who are least likely to return to form based on historical data.

It's a scary proposition and using additional capital to retain him is even scarier.

Snerd · 03-23-2025, 01:33 PM

If Simmons falls far enough for us to draft him, that means quite a few teams’ doctors think he’s too much of a risk. I’d rather take Conerly if he’s available, else a DT.

RunKC · 03-24-2025, 10:49 AM

This is a really good thread but IMO it is better to discuss this with Kelvin Banks bc man that guy is falling down the mock draft boards for some reason.

duncan_idaho · 03-24-2025, 11:31 AM

It's a no from me, dawg.

Toad · 03-24-2025, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This is a really good thread but IMO it is better to discuss this with Kelvin Banks bc man that guy is falling down the mock draft boards for some reason.

Any indication why?

duncan_idaho · 03-24-2025, 12:25 PM

Reasons I’m out:

1. I dont trust recovery of the knee
2. He has short arms
3. His sample size is tiny

Just way too much risk for me.

Couch-Potato · 03-24-2025, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

This is a really good thread but IMO it is better to discuss this with Kelvin Banks bc man that guy is falling down the mock draft boards for some reason.

I'm also game for Banks if he falls... It does seem like we'll get a shot at an OT if we want one. Conerly Jr is still most likely.

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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1010000	In this case, the issue with the media is they still don't understand the injury. I keep reading every mock stating "torn ACL" when it's been clear it's a Patellar tendon injury. ACL injuries are still extremely worrisome but repairs have become commonplace in the NFL with little worry that a player can come back. Patellar tendon injuries, while you'd think would be a better situation given there's blood flow to the injury site, don't have a glowing track record. Simmons may be one of the few success stories but he just happens to fit into the demographic of players who are least likely to return to form based on historical data. It's a scary proposition and using additional capital to retain him is even scarier.
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