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Sam Darnold to Seattle
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Three years, $110.5 million, $55 million guaranteed.
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Geno was asking for 45 million AAV. Made all the sense for Seattle do do this
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What does Darnold give them that Geno didn't?

Their Oline was terrible for Geno and he is more mobile.

What am I missing?
They got a 3rd round pick...

This team is going to be built around riding Walker and Charbonet while building a high level D.
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What does Darnold give them that Geno didn't?

Their Oline was terrible for Geno and he is more mobile.

What am I missing?
Little if anything.

Some youth and some upside.

But they got him to say yes to a 2 year deal. Geno was evidently asking for 3 on top of the year he has left.

And someday we'll start to realize that 'mobile' means shit in terms of making life easy on your OL. Geno is a lot like Watson in that he's not as mobile as people think, he zeroes in on his targets and waits for them to get open and he holds onto the ball too long.

Really nice thrower -- really bad processor. That's hellish for OL. And Darnold may ultimately not be much better in that regard.

But the Seahawks got a younger QB with shorter term and more upside as well as a 3rd round pick. The downside? Absolutely nothing at all. They weren't going to acccomplish anything with Geno that they couldnt' accomplish with Darnold. If anything, their ceiling is a little higher and their floor a little lower, which is only a good thing for a rebuilding squad that was trending towards QB purgatory.
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What does Darnold give them that Geno didn't?

Their Oline was terrible for Geno and he is more mobile.

What am I missing?


He has a stronger arm, and I think he’s just a tad quicker scrambling. That said, I don’t think he’s an upgrade.
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Honestly, this surprises me. The play for Seattle seemed obvious after trading Geno. Bridge Start Sam Howell, whom they traded for, while you draft and develop your guy this year.
Seattle is kind of in that no man’s land where they’re good enough to still compete. It’s kind of like throwing in the towel when you know you can win games with Alex smith.

Geno is a better qb than darnold. But it felt like a really weird fit. He wants to push the ball but Seattle has the horses to be a really really good running team. Until they find a true qbotf a game manager makes more sense than a gunslinger.
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I don't think that's a bad deal.

I think Darnold has mid-tier ability and if he's protected he's capable of making a lot of throws that other QBs in that tier can't.

Seattle has a pretty strong OL.

If you aren't trying to make him throw it 40+ times/gm, you should be in nice shape. And it's a short term deal so you can still sniff around for a long-term option. Moreover, he's young enough that if he shows last year (in aggregate) was no fluke, he can be your long-term guy going forward.

Geno was trying to get a new deal. Given where Seattle is in the competitive cycle, I think they were better served dealing Geno and getting a guy with more ceiling in Darnold (who's also much younger) in Darnold while also getting a decent pick in return for Smith.
He's Matt Ryan reborn, with a decent cast around him he can win you ten or so games year in and out
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The Seahawks haven’t drafted a QB in the first rd in since Rick Mirer in 1993 over 30 years ago. So basically they’ve been the Kansas City Chiefs pre-Mahomes but got lucky for a few years with Russell Wilson working out.

I hope that Mahomes fundamentally changes the philosophy for this franchise bc you have to take shots at a 1st rd QB if you ever want a good one long term.
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He's Matt Ryan reborn, with a decent cast around him he can win you ten or so games year in and out
Oh, no, no, no.

Darnold is nowhere even close to Matt Ryan.
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Seattle is kind of in that no man’s land where they’re good enough to still compete. It’s kind of like throwing in the towel when you know you can win games with Alex smith.

Geno is a better qb than darnold. But it felt like a really weird fit. He wants to push the ball but Seattle has the horses to be a really really good running team. Until they find a true qbotf a game manager makes more sense than a gunslinger.
They should be a good running team. Charbonnet is solid. I don't know what's up with Kenneth Walker. He lit the world on fire his first couple of games and then injuries messed with him the rest of the season.
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Oh, no, no, no.

Darnold is nowhere even close to Matt Ryan.
Wha, c'mon man... Ryan was the king of that just below elite tier, a Madden 85-88 at best

Thats Darnold on his current trajectory, though fighting through a Seattle rebuild could quickly derail that trajectory
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Wha, c'mon man... Ryan was the king of that just below elite tier, a Madden 86-88 at best

Thats Darnold on his current trajectory, though fighting through a Seattle rebuild could quickly derail that trajectory
Darnold is a flash in the pan.

He won't do anything near that again.

Ryan had a long stretch of just below elite play. Years of it.
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