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Old 03-06-2025, 06:52 PM  
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The day Matt Cassell defied Todd Haley
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Old 03-06-2025, 09:55 PM   #16
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Chiefs were ahead by 20 points when this happened. Cassel should have respected the coaching staff. Instead he knew he was Pioli's boy and Haley couldn't really touch him.

Whatever lesson Haley was trying to teach Cassel that day didn't sink in. The results were clear in the postseason and in the following two seasons.

****ed up organization.
Nobody respected Haley and that's the problem with Haley
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Old 03-06-2025, 09:56 PM   #17
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Mark Castle is the worst because he was put in the position to start for 4 ****ing years. Palko, Croyle, hell... not even Blackledge did as much damage to the team and/or the fanbase as Mark Castle.

I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
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Old 03-06-2025, 09:57 PM   #18
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Nobody respected Haley and that's the problem with Haley
That was Pioli's fault. He created that culture.

Haley was probably in over his head but he had a much better NFL career than Cassel. The teams he coached on won at a 61 percent clip.
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:05 PM   #20
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That was Pioli's fault.
I would say it was more of Haleys problem considering he couldn't keep a job anywhere because everyone hated him but yeah Pioli should have never hired him
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:11 PM   #21
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I would say it was more of Haleys problem considering he couldn't keep a job anywhere because everyone hated him but yeah Pioli should have never hired him
My brother is a Steelers fan. He has stated multiple times that he would take Haley over any OC they have had since him. I 100% agree with him.

Haley is a resounding asshole... but an effective OC.
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:12 PM   #22
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Sorry but it's always blackledge. He was such a wash the chiefs gave up on first round qbs for 3 decades.

But cassel was awful.
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:15 PM   #23
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Some of us appreciate this current team more after experiencing those Todd Haley years and even the Herm Edwards years right before it lol. Even the good years under Dick Vermeil and Marty only ended in disappointment.
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:28 PM   #24
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My brother is a Steelers fan. He has stated multiple times that he would take Haley over any OC they have had since him. I 100% agree with him.

Haley is a resounding asshole... but an effective OC.
He had a HOF QB in his prime, prime bell, a great WR and one of the better lines the steelers have had in awhile. Even big ben admitted he would brush off some of Haleys calls. Hard to imagine they'd take over Arians who IIRC helped take them to 2 super bowls
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:37 PM   #25
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To this day... I am completely bewildered by the fact that Castle had a career post KC. 7 more seasons to be exact.

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Only 1 of those 7 years did he throw more TDs than INTs. - 2013 Vikings

Only 1 of those 7 years did he have a QBR above 52.3 - 2016 Titans (30 for 51 / 2TD 2INT / 66.6 QBR)

He stole a further $18m from 5 franchises in 7 years after KC. Alas, none of them AFCW teams.

His career longest pass was 79 yards... but it was a catch and run by Cordarrelle Patterson and it came in a, SURPRISE, loss.

Has the most punchable face in NFL history.

Cracked 7+ YPA only twice in his miserable career (not including his 24 attempts in his rookie season). In contrast... Mahomes has dipped below 7 YPA just once (last season).

He only played 3 complete seasons over 15 years and "earned" $65.5 million dollars. Most of it gifted to his by a shitbag named Pioli.

Holds the official record for having his likeness on a sticker that was placed in a urinal.

Ok... I made that last one up but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it were true.
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:38 PM   #26
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Haley still gets undeserved faint praise from Chiefs fans. People will say he was a bad coach and some fan will come in and say, "Yeah, he was bad, but at least he knew it and tried to do something about it."

Yelling and screaming and having performative temper tantrums like the one Cassel described isn't "doing something about it" if that's the only coaching tool you have. It is, however, the most visually obvious example of coaching that fans can see on game day. They see Haley yelling at his players and it makes them feel better because it makes them feel like THEY'RE yelling at the players.

Still, though... **** Matt Cassel. Howdy doody douche ass was always doing all the spouting leadership crap through his horrible stretches of bad and ineffective play. Talentless prick didn't understand that your team follows you because you can actually hit the broad side of a goddamn barn at a consistent clip, not because you say stupid insufferable affirmations on the sideline and in the locker room. Totally tone deaf.

One of my biggest regrets in life is I wasn't at that game in 2012 to cheer his injury.
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Old 03-06-2025, 10:39 PM   #27
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He had a HOF QB in his prime, prime bell, a great WR and one of the better lines the steelers have had in awhile. Even big ben admitted he would brush off some of Haleys calls. Hard to imagine they'd take over Arians who IIRC helped take them to 2 super bowls
Ok.. but I said SINCE Haley. Arians was the OC in Pitt before Haley.
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Since the NFL is the pinnacle of the sport, it's tempting to think that NFL teams are well run by professionals. But apparently not. I bet 25 percent of current NFL teams (not the Chiefs, obviously) do stuff like this now.
It's more than 25%.

There's only four to five teams every year that have a chance.
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Haley is the unloveable stooge. You don't hate him, you just can't stand him.

Pioli and his butt buddy Cassel can get ****ed. Say what you want about Haley but what they did was straight up Patriot Way evil shit.
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I'm not sure why everyone is only on Cassel. They both sucked! Didn't Haley end up taking a high school job?!
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