Kelce retires and Colston Loveland somehow falls to 31...

[staylor26]

Do you take him?

Man, it would be REALLY tempting. Rice, Worthy, and Loveland? Yeesh. We'd immediately change our overall speed on offense plugging him and Rashee in with X.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just think we tend to fall into the "Nobody will be available" trap sometimes.

I think someone will be there that we like quite a bit.

It could be Loveland. It could be Conerly. It might be a corner like Jahdae Barron. Maybe it's Grant at DT or Golden at WR.

This doesn't feel like the FAU draft where I just didn't see shit I was going to be happy to get (well, JP Jr seemed the obvious fit, but we had some CB depth at the time). And maybe it WILL be Omarion Hampton, but I wouldn't hate that decision either.

I think we'll have some nice choices available to us.

If Hamptons there vs Loveland I'd be sweating. Probably go Hampton myself. But I agree.

[Mecca]

I'd take Luther Burden before I did that..

[chop]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

To me, Kenneth Grant is my #1 guy. You pair him inside with Jones an opposing offenses will have no pocket, ever.

Does it concern you that he plays next to a guy that is expected to go in the top of the draft?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd take Luther Burden before I did that..

I'd be surprised if Luther makes it past 15-18. He might slide a little, but the tools are there and I think he's going to interview extremely well. He's a driven kid, has some of that WR diva stuff to him but he typically channels it extremely well into confidence rather than arrogance.

I don't think he'll be a turnkey superstar. He needs to learn the route tree a little better, needs to tighten up his route running. Needs to stop getting himself killed out there; goddamn does he take some gnarly and completely unnecessary hits.

But I think he'll be one of your more conventional "year 3 leap" sort of WRs who has a really nice progression arc.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just think we tend to fall into the "Nobody will be available" trap sometimes.

I think someone will be there that we like quite a bit.

It could be Loveland. It could be Conerly. It might be a corner like Jahdae Barron. Maybe it's Grant at DT or Golden at WR.

This doesn't feel like the FAU draft where I just didn't see shit I was going to be happy to get (well, JP Jr seemed the obvious fit, but we had some CB depth at the time). And maybe it WILL be Omarion Hampton, but I wouldn't hate that decision either.

I think we'll have some nice choices available to us.

I think a big part of that is getting hung up trying to meet "needs" in the draft. If you just look at LTs, which everybody wants, the pickings are probably slim at 32. That's why you can't approach the draft with a "must do this" attitude.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I just think we tend to fall into the "Nobody will be available" trap sometimes.

I think someone will be there that we like quite a bit.

It could be Loveland. It could be Conerly. It might be a corner like Jahdae Barron. Maybe it's Grant at DT or Golden at WR.

This doesn't feel like the FAU draft where I just didn't see shit I was going to be happy to get (well, JP Jr seemed the obvious fit, but we had some CB depth at the time). And maybe it WILL be Omarion Hampton, but I wouldn't hate that decision either.

I think we'll have some nice choices available to us.

Is Hampton RB2 in this class for you?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Is Hampton RB2 in this class for you?

In a vacuum he's probably RB2, yes.

I just like Henderson more for us. But I also recognize that Henderson probably can't hold up to 250 touches and Hampton probably could.

I mean it's hard to not call Jeanty RB1. The production was just SO loud. And he absolutely has the tools.

But after him, yeah -- Hampton is RB2, Henderson probably 3, Sampson 4, Johnson 5 (just not explosive enough) and Judkins 6.

After him -- hell, I might like Tuten more than anyone left. Then maybe Jordan James, Neal and....uh...Sanders out of South Carolina?

I mean there's just not a lot of separation to me after that top 5.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I think a big part of that is getting hung up trying to meet "needs" in the draft. If you just look at LTs, which everybody wants, the pickings are probably slim at 32. That's why you can't approach the draft with a "must do this" attitude.

We have lots of needs.

And so people keep convincing themselves that every player at every need position we have will be taken.

But we don't have UNLIMITED needs. While other teams have needs at positions we don't, those guys are gonna come off the board. We don't think about them much because we aren't really looking at 'em, but other teams are.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

In a vacuum he's probably RB2, yes.

I just like Henderson more for us. But I also recognize that Henderson probably can't hold up to 250 touches and Hampton probably could.

I mean it's hard to not call Jeanty RB1. The production was just SO loud. And he absolutely has the tools.

But after him, yeah -- Hampton is RB2, Henderson probably 3, Sampson 4, Johnson 5 (just not explosive enough) and Judkins 6.

After him -- hell, I might like Tuten more than anyone left. Then maybe Jordan James, Neal and....uh...Sanders out of South Carolina?

I mean there's just not a lot of separation to me after that top 5.

Yea, after that group, I'm probably out. Give me a guy like Khalil Herbert instead on a cheap deal.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by chop

Does it concern you that he plays next to a guy that is expected to go in the top of the draft?

He's going play next to Chris Jones. The only people that should be worried are every single offense that has to deal with that for the next few years.

Nah, you watch some video on him, he jumps out. He'd be a perfect running mate for Jonesy.

[Titty Meat]

You gotta let us know who else is on the board to make that determination

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

You gotta let us know who else is on the board to make that determination

Well Loveland is a guy that would take a very unexpected fall, so assuming nobody else like that does, would you take him over the pocket of guys we're expecting in that range.

[Chris Meck]

Ultimately, you just have to keep stacking good football players. It almost doesn't matter what position.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Ultimately, you just have to keep stacking good football players. It almost doesn't matter what position.

It matters a little bit.

Not in the sense of chasing need, but in the sense of trying to form an offensive identity. And if you're specifically looking to recapture the explosive offense than Mahomes was running back through the end of the Hill years, then yeah - the position and the skill sets do matter.

There are benefits to both approaches, but it's possible that the team has a target they're specifically striving towards in terms of style and identity. If that's the case, specific positions and tools do matter.

[BWillie]

I'm less interested in speed in a TE. Now they cant be a lumbering stiff but Kelce has taught me understanding football nuances is more important to move the sticks.