Chiefs Does anyone else find it a bit concerning - Page 2

Mecca · 02-10-2025, 10:23 AM

That in multiple Super Bowls the Chiefs seem to come out extremely flat? They seem to really struggle to match the other teams energy level, especially early in these games. Last night they looked like they literally had no hype at all, like what is that?

TripleThreat · 02-10-2025, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

They didn't even attempt to move the pocket until it was 17-0, it was like they never even discussed "so what do we do if we just can't block these guys?"

Sooooooo you were too drunk to realize that one of the TD's in your 17 point statement is a result of a pick 6 that had nothing to do with the defense?

Patrick Mahomes INT Return TD takes eagles from 10, to 17.

Patrick Mahomes INT at what was it? The 15? Gives Eagles the ball to bring the game to 17, to 24?

Wake the **** up, you're sober now.

Gary Cooper · 02-10-2025, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rico

It seemed like they were… hungover or something.

Please tell me Thuney pulled a Eugene Robinson before the game.

Hammock Parties · 02-10-2025, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This isn't a yesterday thing this is an every SB issue.

The team was up yesterday. They were not flat.

Dunerdr · 02-10-2025, 10:37 AM

Have to wonder if the Nagy influence has hurt the rhythm. We just have so rarely found it on offense without running the ball a lot or a 2 minute drive.

GordonGekko · 02-10-2025, 10:37 AM

Huge concern, offense looked like ass all year except maybe Pittsburgh game. Kelce is a shadow of his former self and I really am starting to believe he was the TRUE KEY to our monstrous offensive years a few years ago. Pat is great but he needs his Kelce/Gronkowski type player to be truly effective and unlock all of his abilities. Also the LT situation has turned into an absolute haunting nightmare now.

MahomesMagic · 02-10-2025, 10:38 AM

It’s quite simple.

Every team we play in the SB had a ridiculously stacked D Line.

Our 3 SB victories our offense hung in long enough for the pass rush to get tired late.

seamonster · 02-10-2025, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The Chiefs weren't flat. They just got their ass kicked by a better front.

Defensively they were locked in from the first snap, too.

LOL I've watched Sam Cosby dominate this same defensive line. Rookie QB's have throw for five touchdowns against this big scary defense. Old broke down Matt Stafford threw for damn near four hundred yards in the snow against them. This was a pathetic effort from the entire offense. They all played tight and undisciplined. And the first twenty play script that Reid devised needs an exorcist. Good news is that this is a self inflicted disease the Chiefs have given themselves. Move Thuney back to his guard spot and get a serviceable (doesn't have to be ****ing Orlando Pace) left-tackle. Not advanced rocket science. They've got two dogs at receiver in Worthy and Rice and a young dependable tight end in Noah Grey and an alpha at quarterback so they'll be fine long term.

Mecca · 02-10-2025, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Sooooooo you were too drunk to realize that one of the TD's in your 17 point statement is a result of a pick 6 that had nothing to do with the defense?

Patrick Mahomes INT Return TD takes eagles from 10, to 17.

Patrick Mahomes INT at what was it? The 15? Gives Eagles the ball to bring the game to 17, to 24?

Wake the **** up, you're sober now.

What?

That isn't a statement on the defense, it's a statement that they didn't attempt to do anything different on offense till it was 17-0.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-10-2025, 10:39 AM

Yeah I think it was more about being flat out outmatched.

The defense played their damn hearts out. And they played well.

The offense came out swinging. You can see it in their body language that they looked like they didn’t have an answer. You rarely see mahomes look stone faced. I just don’t know what you can do when your offense is brutally bad at protecting a simple 4 man rush

TripleThreat · 02-10-2025, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster

LOL I've watched Sam Cosby dominate this same defensive line. Rookie QB's have throw for five touchdowns against this big scary defense. Old broke down Matt Stafford threw for damn near four hundred yards in the snow against them. This was a pathetic effort from the entire offense. They all played tight and undisciplined. And the first twenty play script that Reid devised needs an exorcist. Good news is that this is a self inflicted disease the Chiefs have given themselves. Move Thuney back to his guard spot and get a serviceable (doesn't have to be ****ing Orlando Pace) left-tackle. Not advanced rocket science. They've got two dogs at receiver in Worthy and Rice and a young dependable tight end in Noah Grey and an alpha at quarterback so they'll be fine long term.

Soooo many things wrong with this statement.

First, only 4 teams in the regular season vs the eagles put up more than 20 points against them..

Second, NFC West is a DOG division, so to state how the "Rams" were able to put up over 20 like its nothing is another stupid statement.

Third, everyone knows the Oline needs to be addressed.

Fourth, Worth is a DOG now because he put up numbers during garbage time, and got a TD against the back ups? Shitttttttt.....

Fifth, Rice is coming back from an ACL, the majority of players coming back from these types of injurys NEVER have a good to great season, and are on record saying they don't feel the same the first year back, but ACTIVE players say otherwise to hype their salary/agents up.

scho63 · 02-10-2025, 10:45 AM

They played a deep zone with only 4 pass rushers and we never ran the ball.

That is 100% on Andy. Dumb as could be.

7 total runs ENTIRE GAME + 4 by Pat running for his life.

FloridaMan88 · 02-10-2025, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yeah I think it was more about being flat out outmatched.

The defense played their damn hearts out. And they played well.

The offense came out swinging. You can see it in their body language that they looked like they didn’t have an answer. You rarely see mahomes look stone faced. I just don’t know what you can do when your offense is brutally bad at protecting a simple 4 man rush

They weren’t Georgia vs TCU outmatched… but they looked that way.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-10-2025, 10:47 AM

I just don’t know what we could have done tactically.

We couldn’t run the ball. The eagles could run their base defense and snuff it out. Running the ball opens up nothing.

Eagles didn’t even blitz and generated immediate pressure and sealed off Mahomes’ running lanes. They had more guys in coverage because nobody was scared of the run and they didn’t need to blitz. And we had less guys because we were chipping. It’s like trying to hype your guys up when your tallest guy is spud Webb guarding Shaq in the post.

Dunerdr · 02-10-2025, 10:48 AM

I think were not giving enough thought to the Kelce decline. He was our get out of jail free card. Rice started taking that role last year and his injury left Mahomes without that easy button when its just not going right.

O.city · 02-10-2025, 10:48 AM

The rushed 4 and just kicked our ass up front, and they basically made the QB have to play in the pocket and he couldn't/wouldn't do it.

It's pretty simple.

02-10-2025, 10:23 AM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-462950	Does anyone else find it a bit concerning That in multiple Super Bowls the Chiefs seem to come out extremely flat? They seem to really struggle to match the other teams energy level, especially early in these games. Last night they looked like they literally had no hype at all, like what is that?
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02-10-2025, 10:37 AM	#19
Dunerdr MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $-2620000	Have to wonder if the Nagy influence has hurt the rhythm. We just have so rarely found it on offense without running the ball a lot or a 2 minute drive. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
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GordonGekko On the inside Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Casino cash: $9458880	Huge concern, offense looked like ass all year except maybe Pittsburgh game. Kelce is a shadow of his former self and I really am starting to believe he was the TRUE KEY to our monstrous offensive years a few years ago. Pat is great but he needs his Kelce/Gronkowski type player to be truly effective and unlock all of his abilities. Also the LT situation has turned into an absolute haunting nightmare now.
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02-10-2025, 10:38 AM	#21
MahomesMagic Generational Player Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu Casino cash: $590400	It’s quite simple. Every team we play in the SB had a ridiculously stacked D Line. Our 3 SB victories our offense hung in long enough for the pass rush to get tired late. __________________ My Adopt A Chief-Hollywood Brown
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02-10-2025, 10:39 AM	#24
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1535503	Yeah I think it was more about being flat out outmatched. The defense played their damn hearts out. And they played well. The offense came out swinging. You can see it in their body language that they looked like they didn’t have an answer. You rarely see mahomes look stone faced. I just don’t know what you can do when your offense is brutally bad at protecting a simple 4 man rush
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scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $-680000	They played a deep zone with only 4 pass rushers and we never ran the ball. That is 100% on Andy. Dumb as could be. 7 total runs ENTIRE GAME + 4 by Pat running for his life. __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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02-10-2025, 10:47 AM	#28
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1535503	I just don’t know what we could have done tactically. We couldn’t run the ball. The eagles could run their base defense and snuff it out. Running the ball opens up nothing. Eagles didn’t even blitz and generated immediate pressure and sealed off Mahomes’ running lanes. They had more guys in coverage because nobody was scared of the run and they didn’t need to blitz. And we had less guys because we were chipping. It’s like trying to hype your guys up when your tallest guy is spud Webb guarding Shaq in the post.
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02-10-2025, 10:48 AM	#29
Dunerdr MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $-2620000	I think were not giving enough thought to the Kelce decline. He was our get out of jail free card. Rice started taking that role last year and his injury left Mahomes without that easy button when its just not going right. __________________ Adopt-A-Chief- Rachel Santschi
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02-10-2025, 10:48 AM	#30
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-505936	The rushed 4 and just kicked our ass up front, and they basically made the QB have to play in the pocket and he couldn't/wouldn't do it. It's pretty simple.
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