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Old Yesterday, 11:59 AM  
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Chris Simms Dismantles the Refs Are Helping the Chiefs Arguments

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Old Yesterday, 12:30 PM   #16
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Let’s not forget after the 2nd roughing the passer Houston held KC to 4th and 1.

KC ran the ball with Hunt and Houston couldn’t capitalize. I guess the refs helped Hunt cross the line too.
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it's easier on the psyche to believe the refs are out to help the other team win than to accept that your team got beat. Plain and simple.
Yep. They're in the 5 stages of grief and can't get past the "denial" stage.
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This warms my heart too.

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Sims made another interesting observation about the Chiefs slow start. He made the argument on another vid that the long Remegio return basically forced us (understandably) to throw out the opening script that was undoubtedly designed to help get Mahomes into rhythm after 3+ weeks off. It forced them to go into their red zone packages which helps explain a bit why he was off on those early throws (though the poor run and dropped pass by Pacheco didn’t help).

Not sure I buy it or not but I guess it could be the case.
I mean that would make a lot of sense, though. Interesting take that I never thought of.
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Sims made another interesting observation about the Chiefs slow start. He made the argument on another vid that the long Remegio return basically forced us (understandably) to throw out the opening script that was undoubtedly designed to help get Mahomes into rhythm after 3+ weeks off. It forced them to go into their red zone packages which helps explain a bit why he was off on those early throws (though the poor run and dropped pass by Pacheco didn’t help).

Not sure I buy it or not but I guess it could be the case.
It’s a good observation. If true, the coaching staff will keep this in their back pocket for future use. It’s the kind of knowledge you gain by winning consistently.
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This all started when that knucklehead Greg Olsen cried during the SB hold against the Eagles. The Fox camera made it look like a bad call. That's what all the idiots watching on TV saw.

It wasn't until after the game that the other camera angle was shown with the clear hold, but how many people even saw that?
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Sims made another interesting observation about the Chiefs slow start. He made the argument on another vid that the long Remegio return basically forced us (understandably) to throw out the opening script that was undoubtedly designed to help get Mahomes into rhythm after 3+ weeks off. It forced them to go into their red zone packages which helps explain a bit why he was off on those early throws (though the poor run and dropped pass by Pacheco didn’t help).

Not sure I buy it or not but I guess it could be the case.
i said this in the GDT simms stole it from me

but yea it makes a ton of sense.
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This warms my heart too.

Yards are nice but points win games.

Knute Rockne and Pop Warner had this argument after the 1925 Rose Bowl. Stanford heavily outgained Notre Dame in yards and first downs but lost 27-10 due to eight turnovers, including two INTs for TDs. Warner argued teams should gain points for yards and first downs. Rockne agreed as long as baseball teams received runs for more hits and runners left on base.

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Yards are nice but points win games.

Knute Rockne and Pop Warner had this argument after the 1925 Rose Bowl. Stanford heavily outgained Notre Dame in yards and first downs but lost 27-10 due to eight turnovers, including two INTs for TDs. Warner argued teams should gain points for yards and first downs. Rockne agreed as long as baseball teams received runs for more hits and runners left on base.

There is nothing new under the sun.
But when I cobble together some other statistics that say when opposing teams out gain their opponent by 100+ yards they are 49-1!!! The one loss is the ref cheating Chiefs game!!
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This warms my heart too.

Listening to 810. If the Chiefs beat the Bills Sunday. They will have beaten every team they played this year(just took a second try)
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But when I cobble together some other statistics that say when opposing teams out gain their opponent by 100+ yards they are 49-1!!! The one loss is the ref cheating Chiefs game!!
"Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense."

If the league wanted to rig games, it would stand to reason they would try to make the outcomes mundane in context of statistics as not to raise suspicion.

A deception works best when no attention can be drawn.

But maybe that is part of the rigging!
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The unnecessary roughness call was the only iffy call, but it was right for two reasons;

#1 - One of the defenders made contact with Mahomes' helmet

#2 - The Texans are well known to be a dirty team that is looking to injure opposing players. The NFL knows this and the officials damn sure know this. It was clear that both of those defenders were very clearly trying to hit Mahomes in his helmet. One of them was legitimately trying to take him out, even Simms thinks that and so even if neither one made contact I think it's a good call.
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