Playcalling is not the issue

[FringeNC]

Playcalling is not the reason we averaged 4.1 yards per play. There is an elephant in the room this season and it is offensive line play (both LT and RT) and the effect it's had on Mahomes' pocket presence. We are bottom-tier offensively. Run, pass, it doesn't matter -- there are no big plays or easy throws like you see with decent to good offense. Our offense is one of the worst in the league. (If you deny that, you simply don't watch much football. Sorry.)

On the flip side, our D was spectacular today. One of the best performances I can remember.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Mahomes has played poorly. There’s no doubt.

But he rarely has a clean pocket and even when he does, forgive the guy for feeling quick pressure - real or imagined - because it’s beyond the norm rather than the exception.

It’s impossible to run a high level offense with this OL play. We’re skating by because Mahomes is Mahomes.

[MahomesKnows]

Mahomes missed a lot (I think all) of the deep passes he took today. Several of them were open. It's not like it was a small miss, but usually about 10 yards off on those. If he can start dialing in on those, we'll be in business again with the offense.

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

The o-line play hasn’t been that much different than previous years. We’ve had issues at LT since Fisher left. We had absolutely nothing at WR last year and Mahomes still looked better than this year.

Eventually, people are just going to have to admit that Mahomes is not playing well this year. It’s really that simple. He’s clearly not putting in the work he used to because he’s exhausted, overextended, and constantly having to play injured. That’s the issue, not the o-line.

The offense despite average at best tackle play was still *ELITE* in 2022. Not nearly as many big plays, but just relentless marching down the field. Big drop-off last year but still above average. This year, it's fallen off a cliff.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Mahomes has played poorly. There’s no doubt.

But he rarely has a clean pocket and even when he does, forgive the guy for feeling quick pressure - real or imagined - because it’s beyond the norm rather than the exception.

It’s impossible to run a high level offense with this OL play. We’re skating by because Mahomes is Mahomes.

Kurt Warner (who can be pretty critical of Mahomes’ play), has been banging this drum all season.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Offense wasn’t sharp today, but it absolutely has not been one of the worst in the league this year. #2 in success rate as of a few weeks ago. Best 3rd down conversion rate in years.

They don’t have to be explosive to be effective. And at the end of the day, all that matters is scoring more than the opponent. When they need points, they get them.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Did anyone else catch on the broadcast that connecting on the deep ball was a big emphasis in practice and this week’s gameplan?

Failure

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Failure

IF I heard right, it was a horrific offensive gameplan with the status of our offensive line and Cleveland’s pass rush.

[Katie]

He looks totally deflated. Rest him next week and allow him to regroup.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

IF I heard right, it was horrific offensive gameplan with the status of our offensive line and Cleveland’s pass rush.

The deep ball plays were there - but the throws were not. Pat has been shit in that category all year long.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by MahomesKnows

Mahomes missed a lot (I think all) of the deep passes he took today. Several of them were open. It's not like it was a small miss, but usually about 10 yards off on those. If he can start dialing in on those, we'll be in business again with the offense.

he hit Hopkins on a deep one but it bounced out when he hit the ground

I think there was more but I can't recall exact moments

[KCUnited]

We were up 14 in the 4th and called 20 pass plays that took a total of 40 seconds off the clock

I'm making those numbers up but that's how it felt so today was absolutely the play calling WHEN WE HAD the game in hand

Multiple things can be true at once

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Playcalling is not the reason we averaged 4.1 yards per play. There is an elephant in the room this season and it is offensive line play (both LT and RT) and the effect it's had on Mahomes' pocket presence. We are bottom-tier offensively. Run, pass, it doesn't matter -- there are no big plays or easy throws like you see with decent to good offense. Our offense is one of the worst in the league. (If you deny that, you simply don't watch much football. Sorry.)

On the flip side, our D was spectacular today. One of the best performances I can remember.

How is the offensive line an “elephant in the room”? The offensive line is talked about all the time.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

The deep ball plays were there - but the throws were not. Pat has been shit in that category all year long.

I’d argue the plays are going to be there at this point. Secondaries are going to date Pat to hit them until they get burned for it.

[Kman34]

This team is exhausted.. We need to wrap this shit up so they can rest..

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I’d argue the plays are going to be there at this point. Secondaries are going to date Pat to hit them until they get burned for it.

Oh, I don't think they are going to stop throwing them because they've absolutely been open.