Let's talk 2025 roster build (12/7)

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I know we got a threepeat to complete, but I'm thinking ahead today... let's take this position by position:


QB: I'd bring Wentz back. Perfect backup and IDK where else he can go and find a better job unless (God forbid) he plays this year.

RB: I'd bring Hunt back on a minimum deal. Go into the draft with Pacheco and Hunt, find a speed back in the draft who is capable of taking the job post-2025.

WR: If not for Rice's impending suspension, I'd feel good here. I'd look to bring Hopkins and Hollywood both back on 1-2 year deals. If the group will stay healthy, I think we will find they're really good. Rice and Worthy will be perfect complements to one another as WR 1 and 2. But you need to get by while Rice is out and you need depth for injury. I'd be fine with Hardman and Watson as WR 5 & 6.

TE: Does Kelce retire? If he doesn't, this can be left alone probably unless they think Wiley sucks. If Kelce does retire... I'd think you need to at least slap a solid vet bandaid on and see if Gray can take the TE1 reigns. I think he can simply because he's so steady. Not Kelce, but damn solid.

OT: Biggest need obviously. We will see if Humphries earns a new deal. Scares me with his injury history but if he looks good... we can't let a good LT walk away. Hopefully Kingsley can become a legit swing tackle at minimum with a shot to take over a starting job in 2026. Taylor is here another year, perhaps two more.

IOL: I'd give Thuney a short extension to alleviate his cap hit if he plans to play much longer. Let Wanya, Nourzad, and Hanson compete for the RG job. If someone falls to you in the draft, take it and run. Protecting Pat is always priority #1.

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DL: Need another legit pass rusher with juice. I'd hope that also retaining Omenihu is a priority. I'd prefer that over Trey Smith and maybe even Bolton at this point, especially if it can be a one-year deal that he takes to try and get paid in 2026. Need to bring our big run stuffers back on 1-year deals per usual.

LB: Tranquill hasn't been as good this year, which makes keeping Bolton seem a bit more important. I hope he can be retained at a reasonable cost, and if he can, we can roll with the same trio into 2025.

CB: Have to get another slot corner who can be there in case Trent can't -- which only takes a single injury to the room. Get another young guy or two in the room for in the inevitable departures of some of our 2022 Fab Five guys. Preferrably mid rounds.

S: I think Hicks is ready to take over Reid's role by next year. Not an urgent need at the position, especially if you add another viable slot corner that lets Conner stay at safety.

Specialists: Bring Araiza back on RFA deal, everything should stay the same there.

Rough stab at what a 53-man could look like in '25:

QB - Mahomes, Wentz
RB - Pacheco, Hunt, draft pick
WR - Rice, Worthy, Hopkins, Hollywood, Hardman, Watson
TE - Kelce, Gray, Wiley
LT - Vet (Humphries?), Morris
LG - Thuney, Nourzad
C - Humphrey, Nourzad
RG - Kingsley, Hanson
RT - Taylor, Driscoll

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DE - Karlaftis, Danna
DT - Jones, Wharton or an early draft pick
NT - A couple cheap fatties, vets or rookies
DE - Omenihu, FAU, draft pick (first two days)
LB - Bolton, Tranquill, Leo
CB - Trent, Watson, Williams, vet slot corner, draft pick
S - Hicks, Cook, Conner

Feel like I'm probably leaving out a fairly nice FA signing or two but hard to project there until we see what the market will be.

[O.city]

Willie Gay isn't coming back.

Bolton does alot more than we see, so they'll keep him.

[RunKC]

Said it in another thread. I wouldn’t be mad if Veach drafted a G like Graham Barton in the late 1st and locked up the interior long term.

I don’t like seeing Mahomes get knocked around

[Couch-Potato]

Ideally, Veach get’s creative with the cap and can keep Smith, Bolton, Hopkins, Brown, and Omenihu. There’s always a way. NFL contracts are flexible enough to dance around the cap. Signing bonuses, restructures, extensions, whatever…. 4-peat!

[O.city]

You can find good G's and Lb's in the 2nd/3rd/4th round.

I'm full on BPA early. We need to be looking to develop high end guys to take the mantle here.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Said it in another thread. I wouldn’t be mad if Veach drafted a G like Graham Barton in the late 1st and locked up the interior long term.

I don’t like seeing Mahomes get knocked around

Nah. No reason the spend a 1st rounder on a guard, especially with the holes this team has.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by O.city

You can find good G's and Lb's in the 2nd/3rd/4th round.

I'm full on BPA early. We need to be looking to develop high end guys to take the mantle here.

Yep... it's gotta be BPA through and through.

When you start chasing stuff, you run the risk of whiffing on some important picks and setting your roster back pretty dramatically.

This franchise has shown under Andy and Pat that they can chameleon to whatever they need to in order to win games.

[O.city]

If the BPA is a S, take him. If it's a G, fine.

But don't go shoehorning yourself.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

If the BPA is a S, take him. If it's a G, fine.

But don't go shoehorning yourself.

They need splash players. Taking a guard in the 1st round would be counterproductive. Look where they got Smith.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They need splash players. Taking a guard in the 1st round would be counterproductive. Look where they got Smith.

Eh, I don't really care if it turns into a good high end player.

I'm fully on board with build the trenches, work back from there at this point.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

Eh, I don't really care if it turns into a good high end player.

I'm fully on board with build the trenches, work back from there at this point.

There's still such a thing as positional value. They have to be cost effective with their picks. It's the only way to sustain a dynasty.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They need splash players. Taking a guard in the 1st round would be counterproductive. Look where they got Smith.

They just need someone who is actually gonna get on the field and make a difference.

No more FAU’s or Kingsley’s. Can’t have players providing nothing, especially year 1

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

They just need someone who is actually gonna get on the field and make a difference.

No more FAU’s or Kingsley’s. Can’t have players providing nothing, especially year 1

Notice that you're talking about pass rushers and LTs. Not guards.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

There's still such a thing as positional value. They have to be cost effective with their picks. It's the only way to sustain a dynasty.

Taking guys that can't play is the quickest way to end a dynasty.

[O.city]

They swung at a DE and a LT and seems to have missed, jury still out.

That's fine. Positional wise, that's just the way they're gonna have to do things.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Yeah I'm starting to think chasing positional value even isn't worth the squeeze unless it's your BPA.

Puka Nacua is a high positional value, elite player taken in the fifth round. He looked really good in college. There's a guy like that every year at the WR, CB, or pass rusher positions. If not a few.

Creed and Bolton were not high value positions but I'd make those picks again every single time. Get really good players and let the coaches figure out how to win with them.