Chiefs Most Valuable Receiver in 2023? - Page 2

Shoes · 08-31-2023, 09:35 AM

Good morning Chiefsplanet,

With so many new faces to the WR room, I'm having a hard time predicting which receiver is going to have the greatest impact on the offense for this upcoming season. Going into training camp I think most would have agreed that it was going to be Toney's time to shine especially after his Super Bowl heroics.

Now with the season a week away, the tone has shifted due to Toney again not being able to stay on the field. Who do you think will become Pat's favorite non Kelce target in 2023?

redfan · 08-31-2023, 11:09 AM

Watson's gonna make you regret the snub.

493rd · 08-31-2023, 11:12 AM

Midway through this season Rice will be a force!

In58men · 08-31-2023, 11:12 AM

Skyy Moore most valuable and least will be Watson

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2023, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes

By design.

Then how do I cast my vote for him?

**Rain Man** · 08-31-2023, 11:26 AM

I'll go with James. He'll be the shifty guy who breaks defensive schemes.

Megatron96 · 08-31-2023, 11:36 AM

It's Toney in a landslide, if I could count on Toney staying healthy for the entire season, or even just 14 games. He's the most complete WR on the team, with the best hands (I know, there's no such thing as having good/bad hands in the NFL), can play either inside or outside equally effectively, and can consistently beat press, even jams.

But, I'll have to see Toney play 14+ games in a season before I can believe it, so it has to be Skyy Moore. He's going to get force-fed a ton of opportunities, if we can believe all the offseason/preseason hype (and there's no reason not to), so he should be the most valuable WR just by the sheer volume of targets he's going to see.

**DaFace** · 08-31-2023, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

I went with MVS. He's the only WR on the roster who has actually balled out in the postseason for KC.

Same. I HOPE one of the other guys can step up, but if we're just playing the odds, MVS is the most LIKELY candidate.

Graystoke · 08-31-2023, 11:49 AM

I'm putting my vote in for Skyy but hoping like hell Ross makes a huge impact

**jjchieffan** · 08-31-2023, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graystoke

I'm putting my vote in for Skyy but hoping like hell Ross makes a huge impact

I would like to see that as well. But he is 7th on the depth chart. I'm afraid that he won't even be active unless a couple of guys are out hurt.

el borracho · 08-31-2023, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I think Moore is the safe pick.

.... he'll reliably be in the right place and make the catch when it's thrown to him.

Really? Because that has not been his forte to date.

ToxSocks · 08-31-2023, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho

Really? Because that has not been his forte to date.

His hands are good.

And yeah, he wasn't in the right places last year, but im giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one and chalking it up to rookie year learning.

Using his quickness to quickly find and fill soft spots in zones HAS to be his thing this year. If that doesn't develop, then im not sure he's gonna have a "thing" here.

If he's problematic i think he'll quickly concede snaps, likely to James and Rice.

Megatron96 · 08-31-2023, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

His hands are good.

And yeah, he wasn't in the right places last year, but im giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one and chalking it up to rookie year learning.

Using his quickness to quickly find and fill soft spots in zones HAS to be his thing this year. If that doesn't develop, then im not sure he's gonna have a "thing" here.

If he's problematic i think he'll quickly concede snaps, likely to James and Rice.

Yep, 100%. He had the most trouble understanding how/where to settle into the soft spots in zone last season; he has to make a big leap with that this year, or his targets are simply going to drop off a small cliff.

Skyy God · 08-31-2023, 12:18 PM

Non-answer.

I think WR yardage is going to be pretty close, gameplan specific, and largely irrelevant to the success of this offense.

Wilson8 · 08-31-2023, 12:30 PM

The question is, "Most Valuable Receiver in 2023?"

Travis Kelce of course.

If the question is, "Most Valuable Wide Receiver in 2023?"

It will be interesting to see who dresses for games each week.

Watson will probably miss a few games because he is close to the bottom in value as a receiver.

If Rice continues his preseason trend of dropping passes, will find himself on the bench and watching.

Ross may find himself on bench to begin season only because the Chiefs have seven WRs which means, MVS, Moore, Toney, James (return man), and Rice probably dress for first games.

Toney will get hurt later which will allow Ross to be on game day roster and then watch out.

Ross will be the best WR by middle of season.

Balto · 08-31-2023, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing

I think Moore is the safe pick. I think he's going to be fed a lot of underneath routes and used similarly to how they used JuJu last year. I expect him to be a reliable target with a high catch rate.

I don't think he has any elements of his game that will dazzle you the way Toney/Rice/James/Ross can, but i do think he'll reliably be in the right place and make the catch when it's thrown to him.

MVS/Toney/Rice/James are gonna be very boom or bust on any given play/Sunday etc.

100% agree and think Moore will get those 101 targets JuJu got last year.

It also doesn't hurt Veach on the subject this week:

Chiefs GM Brett Veach said today Rashee Rice/Justyn Ross would start out as "package" players. The hope is they produce enough to graduate & become every-down WRs later in season. Right now, Skyy Moore is one of those every-down guys. Veach expects a "big jump" from Skyy this yr.

View Poll Results: MVP Receiver?
Toney	13	9.70%
Moore	41	30.60%
Ross	23	17.16%
Rice	15	11.19%
James	23	17.16%
MVS	19	14.18%
Voters: 134. You may not vote on this poll

08-31-2023, 09:35 AM
Shoes Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $3019690	Most Valuable Receiver in 2023? Good morning Chiefsplanet, With so many new faces to the WR room, I'm having a hard time predicting which receiver is going to have the greatest impact on the offense for this upcoming season. Going into training camp I think most would have agreed that it was going to be Toney's time to shine especially after his Super Bowl heroics. Now with the season a week away, the tone has shifted due to Toney again not being able to stay on the field. Who do you think will become Pat's favorite non Kelce target in 2023?
Posts: 1,521

08-31-2023, 11:09 AM	#16
redfan I miss Eric and Willie Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: OHohOhhhhh-lathe Casino cash: $-1678148	Watson's gonna make you regret the snub. __________________ IV LIV LVII LVIII Len Dawson: SB IV MVP Patrick Mahomes: 2X NFLMVP 3X SBMVP and 3rd member of the B2B SBMVP Club Last edited by redfan; 08-31-2023 at 11:09 AM.. Reason: Moore will be the best
Posts: 8,207	2 0

08-31-2023, 11:12 AM	#17
493rd GDT Contributor Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: * Casino cash: $-349600	Midway through this season Rice will be a force!
Posts: 10,189	2 0

08-31-2023, 11:12 AM	#18
In58men I didn’t say mud, I said crud. Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $-1351974	Skyy Moore most valuable and least will be Watson __________________ Attendance Chief record 11-9
Posts: 30,789

08-31-2023, 11:26 AM	#20
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-452449 VARSITY	I'll go with James. He'll be the shifty guy who breaks defensive schemes. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
Posts: 145,253

08-31-2023, 11:36 AM	#21
Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-1729600	It's Toney in a landslide, if I could count on Toney staying healthy for the entire season, or even just 14 games. He's the most complete WR on the team, with the best hands (I know, there's no such thing as having good/bad hands in the NFL), can play either inside or outside equally effectively, and can consistently beat press, even jams. But, I'll have to see Toney play 14+ games in a season before I can believe it, so it has to be Skyy Moore. He's going to get force-fed a ton of opportunities, if we can believe all the offseason/preseason hype (and there's no reason not to), so he should be the most valuable WR just by the sheer volume of targets he's going to see. __________________ *“Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them.”*- George Orwell Steven "Spags" Spagnuolo is my Adopt-A-Chief!!!
Posts: 34,884

08-31-2023, 11:49 AM	#23
Graystoke MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Driftless Region Casino cash: $-2430000	I'm putting my vote in for Skyy but hoping like hell Ross makes a huge impact
Posts: 9,607

08-31-2023, 12:18 PM	#28
Skyy God 11-5, baby Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Livin the dream Casino cash: $2191557	Non-answer. I think WR yardage is going to be pretty close, gameplan specific, and largely irrelevant to the success of this offense.
Posts: 22,416

08-31-2023, 12:30 PM	#29
Wilson8 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $2917557	The question is, "Most Valuable Receiver in 2023?" Travis Kelce of course. If the question is, "Most Valuable Wide Receiver in 2023?" It will be interesting to see who dresses for games each week. Watson will probably miss a few games because he is close to the bottom in value as a receiver. If Rice continues his preseason trend of dropping passes, will find himself on the bench and watching. Ross may find himself on bench to begin season only because the Chiefs have seven WRs which means, MVS, Moore, Toney, James (return man), and Rice probably dress for first games. Toney will get hurt later which will allow Ross to be on game day roster and then watch out. Ross will be the best WR by middle of season.
Posts: 3,932