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I don't think people realize how ****ing awesome Charles Omenihu and Drue Tranquill are going to be. And Mike Edwards is just a rock solid replacement for Thornhill.
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I would also add Richie James being a very sneaky pickup. His target share and yards on a piss poor Giants passing attack could translate into very solid numbers in KC. I think his impact will surprise a lot of Chiefs fans.
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The Chiefs had, in my opinion, four major needs. I would add DT to the list you put up. I have concluded from the gun that Veach did a strong job at DE this offseason. I really like the Umenihu addition and the FAU draft pick. [I think everybody needs to get off the BJ Thompson signing, however. That dude is a special teamer for Toub, period. If he logs three sacks in non-garbage time over the course of his career I'll change my ChiefsPlanet font to Comic Sans for a full calendar year. He's a less physically gifted Joshua Kaindoh.] But the other three positions: tackle, wide receiver, and defensive tackle... I think you could make the argument the Chiefs have at best held serve at those positions, and I think you could make the argument that they are worse for each of them. LT: Brown, LG: Thuney, C: Humphrey, RG: Smith, RT: Wylie LT: Smith, LG: Thuney, C: Humphrey, RG: Smith, RT: Taylor That second line is maybe worse than the first one, because Smith is going to be really bad at left tackle. We need to call a spade a spade there. I'll be straight up shocked if he doesn't get benched at some point. WR: JuJu, MVS, Toney, Hardman, Moore, Watson WR: Toney, MVS, Moore, James, Rice, Watson I think those are about the same levels of talent; I may give a slight edge to the first group but it's negligible. DT: Jones, Saunders, Nnadi, Williams, Wharton DT: Jones, Nnadi, Wharton, Coburn, Cowart I definitely think that first line is better than the first one. There is a nuanced discussion to be had here. To say the Chiefs had a "meh" offseason is not the same as saying their offseason was horrid or that the Chiefs are collapsing. But what it is saying, some people who drink from the fountain of Veach cannot fathom, which is that the offseason under-delivered. |
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Sure you "can argue" that they've gotten worse at OT and WR, but that doesn't mean it would be a good one.
Last year, the Chiefs didn't have a OT that they could leave on an island. They can absolutely do that with Taylor on the right side. You're only as strong as your weakest link, and a healthy Smith isn't worse than Wylie. As for WR, it's not just about the additions they've made this offseason. It's the investments they've made over the last year. Toney and Skyy are going to be much better, and when you throw in Rice/James, I think that offsets losing JuJu and a guy who didn't even play the last half of the season aside from the AFCCG. All of our WRs aside from Hardman were in year 1 with Pat last year. Most of those guys are now going into year 2. That room has more talent and more experience with Pat than last year's group. It's only a "meh" offseason because your shit mock offseasons turned out to be just that. You're never close because you're a dipshit and the Chiefs actually know what they're doing. |
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With the way Edwards plays and how this team is generally ahead, I could easily see him leading the league in INTs.
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Sorry Shun. You lost me on the comparison to OT’s. Jawaan Taylor is a big upgrade over Wylie. Remember both Orlando and Wylie had over 6% pressure rate. They led the league in pressures given up by an OL.
Simply getting Taylor helps significantly bc one side is locked down. Taylor gave up less than 3% pressure rate in an Andy Reid scheme last year. He was an ideal fit. I get you’re down on Smith but to me he’s close to a scratch with Orlando. Orlando gave up over 40 pressures last year. Watch the Bengals championship game again. They protected him the entire game bc of how bad he was. If Smith is that bad at least it will be equal for less pay and they can help with chips while not worrying about the other side. Really the big negative was that Veach said they were looking for the long term LT. At this present time he hasn’t found one.
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I love to make early (bad) predictions as much as the next person...but we don't really know how to judge this offseason until we see how the year pans out, surely. There's draft picks I like more or less but who knows. There's areas we targeted and might work out great or be a problem.
I DO think you can say that where we lost people in high value roles we did try and address that. We don't know if the OT, WR and DE moves work out, but we do know attempts were made. At this point it's all you can ask. If Veach had got a CB and expensive DT in FA we could probably say it was an odd offseason. Personally I also think a general focus on young-ish and hopefully ascending talent in FA is a good philosophy. We haven't gone for older players, we haven't looked to reclaim guys with bad injury records. We haven't expected a guy to magically return to form (I dunno, maybe Smith is that guy) for the most part. Might not work out but I feel like the strategy was sound. The one aspect I'm meh on is the DT position, it feels under-resourced. But everything else makes sense to me. |
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Combine posts 21 and 23 and you get where I'm at. Did they go out and make a splash signing? Maybe JT at RT but most of them had people that know saying "that's a sneaky good pick-up for the champs". OBJ wasn't worth the offer he turned down last year, wasn't good enough this year for the Chiefs to actively try to keep him around and he signed with the opposition for the best offer anyone would give him. He was/is good most of the time but nothing to get your panties in a twist over losing him.
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Coburn needs a damn three-stall garage to park. Shit that kid is wi d e.
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