Andy, please let Mahomes be Mahomes

[BigRedChief]

He’s not a pocket passer. Maybe someday he will be but we are 9 games into the season. Mahomes as a pocket passer this year ain’t happening.

You want to waste a prime year of Hill, Kelce and a cheap salary year of Mahomes, keep trying to make him a pocket passer this year.

He saved your ass and the season by being Mahomes and making the game clinching play.

Please for the love of god, and to save our season, let Mahomes be who is really is…. Mahomes.

[493rd]

Why do some get so offended when people criticize Mahomes? He’s playing shitty right now and he’s the first to admit it. Nobody knows what the issue is, but he needs to be better, much better. With his future cap hit he can’t be what he is right now. I think he’ll be better, not sure when.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Mahomes was doing just fine today until Niang went down. Things changed when Wylie went in.

[ChiefsCountry]

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by dallaschiefsfan

Mahomes was doing just fine today until Niang went down. Things changed when Wylie went in.

Niang went down? Oh snap!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

Yeah well he hasn't hit a deep ball since the Washington game. Hasn't even come close.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Hey guys, remember this?

Tom Brady was done. Staring down receivers in Arians offense. The Bucs were 7-5, a complete mess, and Brady was declined and overmatched in the needs of his new offense.

All of this is to say that yes, even the best of quarterbacks go through stretches like this. Patrick and Andy are going to figure this out, everything in their history and pedigree suggest they will. For the start we've had to the season, 5-4 seems awfully okay considering the unexpected offensive and defensive problems we've had to start the season.

I don't know how much truth there was to it, but the narrative at the time was the Bucs hadn't completely bought into the offense at that point of the season, and what they did in the SB was basically the final product of protecting Brady with short dump-offs and what not.

And yeah, the only win they could hang their hat on all season was beating the Packers... swept by the Saints and one game was 38-3 (sound familiar?), lost to the Rams, lost to the Chiefs when it was 21-0 in the first quarter.

There is still plenty of time and the AFC in particular looks like a complete shitshow.... as much as I hated the decades of "just get into the playoffs and anything can happen!!!", this is actually a team that could validate that theory.

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Some of you are just in flat out denial. Patrick is not a good QB at the moment. He has some good moments but he is missing reads badly and making poor decisions. He chose not to throw to a wide open Kelce today twice and opted to take much higher risk passes that hit the ground.

If he completes that pass to Hardman the place goes bananas and the beast is back.

Tell me that if Hardman had scored a td there, you would be angrily face rolling your keyboard bitching about passing up a wide open shorter pass. Lmmfao it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

If he connects on the deep shot to hill for a what, 95 yard td, same deal.

You may yearn for the days of Alex Smith throwing dumpoffs. Go watch replays of that shit if that's what you want.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

If he completes that pass to Hardman the place goes bananas and the beast is back.

Tell me that if Hardman had scored a td there, you would be angrily face rolling your keyboard bitching about passing up a wide open shorter pass. Lmmfao it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

If he connects on the deep shot to hill for a what, 95 yard td, same deal.

You may yearn for the days of Alex Smith throwing dumpoffs. Go watch replays of that shit if that's what you want.

IF IF IF.....

[dirk digler]

Was arguing this very point in the other Mahomes thread. I encourage anyone to go to youtube and look at his TD's passes last year. Alot of his "pocket" passes were him drifting 10 yds + back and throwing it. We also did alot of designed roll outs down in the red zone.

Not sure if the coaches or Mahomes himself, the tackles or defenses have adjusted and are playing him that way to take away that part of his game. But being a traditional pocket QB isn't his game.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

So, if he played better, people would be saying better things?

I do think a lot of people are looking for shreds of optimism, when a couple of throws at the end of a game has people thinking we're seeing the "old" (you know, 5-8 weeks ago) Mahomes.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I actually think the reverse needs to happen and Andy needs to hold Mahomes tightly to a scripted gameplan that features quick/short passes and uptempo/no huddle to help him get out of the slump.

It’s no coincidence that the Chiefs offense has looked it’s best the last two games in their first drives with the first 15 scripted plays.

Yeah. Too bad the game is more than a quarter long. After the first 15 plays, they've looked lost.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If he can't adjust he is done. It's that simple..

Mahomes is done, heard it on CP first.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by petegz28

He got away the last 3 seasons playing backyard football. Teams have adjusted defensively.

If he can't adjust he is done.

Disagree. People forget the back half of the 2019 season. Patrick absolutely played from the pocket to the point that this board thought Andy made him into Alex. He has absolutely shown he can play this way before.

Also, again --- ALL QB'S GO THROUGH RUTS LIKE THIS.

These were some ugly, ugly interceptions from Tom Brady. pic.twitter.com/KpgbjMDubF

— Zack Cox (@ZackCoxNESN) November 24, 2020

Tom Brady's 9 interceptions in 11 games are more than he had all of last season pic.twitter.com/Al701yUV3u

— NFL on CBS �� (@NFLonCBS) November 24, 2020

To say that "Patrick needs to learn how to play QB now" is such a stupid statement after what we've seen him accomplish in his first NFL seasons. We've seen him play excellently at the position and to forget all of that after literally the first slump in his career makes me think you need to take a breather, bud.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Meh. He hits one of those deep balls and everybody is deep throating the offense again.

Problem is there was only one of those deep balls that had more than a hope and a prayer of being completed.

He's too in love with hitting the deep ball. He got addicted to it to start his career and defenses got tired of it. Now he's looking right through a wide open Kelce to throw 50 yards down field to a double covered Hardman of all receivers.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

If he completes that pass to Hardman the place goes bananas and the beast is back.

Tell me that if Hardman had scored a td there, you would be angrily face rolling your keyboard bitching about passing up a wide open shorter pass. Lmmfao it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

If he connects on the deep shot to hill for a what, 95 yard td, same deal.

You may yearn for the days of Alex Smith throwing dumpoffs. Go watch replays of that shit if that's what you want.

If my aunt had a dick, billay would be her bitch.