Dalvin Cook....worth Christian McCaffrey money?

[Deberg_1990]

Thoughts?

Dalvin Cook has been playing the waiting game for an extension for months and without resolution as the offseason program progresses, Cook's decision to sit out the remainder until he gets a new deal shouldn't surprise anyone. From sources I've spoken with in recent weeks

— Courtney Cronin (@CourtneyRCronin) June 8, 2020

and in time following the draft, the reason for an impasse in negotiations is over the number Cook is looking for. Sources have told me the ideal figure is north of what Christian McCaffrey is making ($16 mill/year), but it does not seem the Vikings want/can be in that ballpark.

— Courtney Cronin (@CourtneyRCronin) June 8, 2020

[kcclone]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I really feel bad for RBs. They take more abuse than any other position, but that abuse then means that their longevity doesn't make them worth paying a big second contract.

So no, Cook isn't worth it. I feel bad that he's not though.

Yeah the NFL should consider a separate pay structure for RB’s which includes higher rookie deals and higher guarantees.

Like you said it’s a shame that these guys take the biggest abuse and as a result are paid the least.

[Deberg_1990]

Why did RBs back in the day like Walter Peyton, Franco Harris, Earl Campbell, Emmitt Smith, etc seems to get more carries with less injuries?

Maybe they didn’t have as many overall touches because they rarely caught passes??

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Why did RBs back in the day like Walter Peyton, Franco Harris, Earl Campbell, Emmitt Smith, etc seems to get more carries with less injuries?

Maybe they didn’t have as many overall touches because they rarely caught passes??

Why did posters back in the day seem to start more threads with fewer shitty ones?

[Iowanian]

Cook has played 4, 11 and 14 games respectively. He hasn't held up for an entire season yet to date.

Compare that to CMC and then review the production.

He's not the same category and the vikes should tell him to eat a bag of dicks.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcclone

Yeah the NFL should consider a separate pay structure for RB’s which includes higher rookie deals and higher guarantees.

Like you said it’s a shame that these guys take the biggest abuse and as a result are paid the least.

Eh.

The entire NFL pay structure is based on supply and demand. There's a TON of people willing to pay a lot of money to watch football and that drives money into the system.

If that quality is poor, they won't get all that money so they only employ the best in the world. They don't pay them on the bases of the pounding they take, they pay them based on how rare they are.

Well RBs are just fungible. As noted, the SB featured two guys plucked off the scrap heap.

I see no need to start creating specialized caps for RBs because if you're gonna do that, you really have no excuse not to do one for the opposite reason for QBs as well. And if I'm any other position group I wonder why the hell my earnings are being reduced by not having a special tier for me.

Nah - if you want to be paid more and have the ability play another position at the highest level, then do that. If not - well the market is what it is.

[Sassy Squatch]

He's been active for 31 of the 52 games he's been a Viking. In other words, no.

[kcclone]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Eh.

The entire NFL pay structure is based on supply and demand. There's a TON of people willing to pay a lot of money to watch football and that drives money into the system.

If that quality is poor, they won't get all that money so they only employ the best in the world. They don't pay them on the bases of the pounding they take, they pay them based on how rare they are.

Well RBs are just fungible. As noted, the SB featured two guys plucked off the scrap heap.

I see no need to start creating specialized caps for RBs because if you're gonna do that, you really have no excuse not to do one for the opposite reason for QBs as well. And if I'm any other position group I wonder why the hell my earnings are being reduced by not having a special tier for me.

Nah - if you want to be paid more and have the ability play another position at the highest level, then do that. If not - well the market is what it is.

Not really. You have a salary cap and a players union.

If it was truly supply and demand, Mahomes would make $80m at the expense of others. And undrafted free agents would play for well below the rookie minimum (because they would). Practice guys would likely play for half of what they make if that's what it took for their shot.

And in a free market, guys like Tepper, Kahn and Jerry Jones who could and likely would double or tripple their current salary expenditures.

[MGRS13]

Originally Posted by alpha_omega

I say no.
And really, McCaffrey isn't worth McCaffrey $. IMO of course.

This
Thread should have ended here.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcclone

Not really. You have a salary cap and a players union.

If it was truly supply and demand, Mahomes would make $80m at the expense of others. And undrafted free agents would play for well below the rookie minimum (because they would). Practice guys would likely play for half of what they make if that's what it took for their shot.

And in a free market, guys like Tepper, Kahn and Jerry Jones who could and likely would double or tripple their current salary expenditures.

But how does creating a RB exclusive salary scale HELP the rest of the NFLPA.

The Quarterback scale almost makes sense. And the overall cap was forced down their throats.

But a RB scale wouldn't be pursued by ownership nor would it be supported by the NFLPA.

The owners did manipulate the market with the hard cap, yes. But you've now created a market WITHIN the cap. And what you're suggesting is a a disruption of that. RBs, by virtue of their lack of scarcity, are simply not worth as much.

[RealSNR]

No, but he's probably worth Ben Stein's money!

[Kiimo]

There is so much competition too

RBs with one year left on their contract:

*Dalvin Cook
*Aaron Jones
*Derrick Henry
*Leonard Fournette
*Joe Mixon
*Alvin Kamara
*Kenyan Drake
*Todd Gurley
*James Conner
*Damien Williams
*Kareem Hunt
*Tarik Cohen
*Marlon Mack
*Chris Carson
*Jamaal Williams
*Matt Breida
*Kenyon Drake
*Derrick Henry



Cook is a moron.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

There is so much competition too

RBs with one year left on their contract:

*Dalvin Cook
*Aaron Jones
*Derrick Henry
*Leonard Fournette
*Joe Mixon
*Alvin Kamara
*Kenyan Drake
*Todd Gurley
*James Conner
*Damien Williams
*Kareem Hunt
*Tarik Cohen
*Marlon Mack
*Chris Carson
*Jamaal Williams
*Matt Breida
*Kenyon Drake
*Derrick Henry



Cook is a moron.

I was going to try and make an argument that he's worth being paid, although the Vikings or no team should really give it to him.

But yikes, that's way too much supply. I wouldn't pay a RB shit right now.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

There is so much competition too

RBs with one year left on their contract:

*Dalvin Cook
*Aaron Jones
*Derrick Henry
*Leonard Fournette
*Joe Mixon
*Alvin Kamara
*Kenyan Drake
*Todd Gurley
*James Conner
*Damien Williams
*Kareem Hunt
*Tarik Cohen
*Marlon Mack
*Chris Carson
*Jamaal Williams
*Matt Breida
*Kenyon Drake
*Derrick Henry



Cook is a moron.

Wow.

Dude. Read the room.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Why did RBs back in the day like Walter Peyton, Franco Harris, Earl Campbell, Emmitt Smith, etc seems to get more carries with less injuries?

Maybe they didn’t have as many overall touches because they rarely caught passes??

Cause the players they played against were smaller and slower.

[tatorhog]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Teicher probably thinks so.

came here for this

was not disappointed