Chiefs Chiefs defense this year. What do you expect? - Page 2

**petegz28** · 07-19-2012, 10:37 PM

The first year and a half of Romeo seemed we sat back in a lot of coverage. I am not saying we didn't blitz but it appeared anyway we didn't do it a whole lot relying on Hali to be the man. Last year the NE game we started blitzing like crazy, at least compared to what is seemed we did before. Particularly DJ seemed to start coming up the middle a lot more.

mr. tegu · 07-19-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

2. Carr > Routt

The secondary as a whole compared to last season's will be better.

Routt, Berry, Flowers, Lewis > Carr, Sabbi/McGraw, Flowers, Lewis

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Also, add a 4th factor:

4. Last year our offense was shit, so teams didn't have to score as much.

And because of our bad offense the defense had to play that much more. Improved offense with Charles back means less time on the field and an improved defense.

Bump · 07-19-2012, 11:26 PM

Luis Castillo just got cut, I wouldn't mind swooping him up right now

rad · 07-19-2012, 11:34 PM

16 shutouts.

**RealSNR** · 07-19-2012, 11:38 PM

Are you guys talking about Powe or Poe? I've seen people mention Powe twice in this thread, and I'm not sure if they mean Jerrell or Dontari

**chefsos** · 07-19-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

19 shutouts.

There. It's fixed now.

If you're gonna go for it then GO FOR IT ALL

**petegz28** · 07-20-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Are you guys talking about Powe or Poe? I've seen people mention Powe twice in this thread, and I'm not sure if they mean Jerrell or Dontari

Um yeah! I get them confused, I was referring to Dontari.

ThaVirus · 07-20-2012, 12:27 AM

When the **** did Dane come back!?

Psyko Tek · 07-20-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump

Our defense has 90's chiefs D potential. I think it all comes down to Eric Berry, if he can recover and get better, sky is the limit! Add in Houston who was beast last few games and Powe, I think we could have a borderline legendary defense on our hands.

THIS
but they ain't gonna get much rest between series,
unless charles and hillis rack up a couple hundred yards a piece per game

Psyko Tek · 07-20-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

That might not be a bad strategy.

with the last 4 years MVP Colquitt and Mr irrelevant on the field how can we lose ?

michaelj_58 · 07-20-2012, 03:26 AM

I expect a top ten defense!!!!!!! GO CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!

jspchief · 07-20-2012, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Granted, but do you expect to see more of the coverage D or more of the blitzing D that we saw for the last half of the year?

I dont expect us to be as aggressive as we were the last half of the season.

The difference between trying to win a job, and keep a job.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 07-20-2012, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Hard to judge last year since we played so many awful QBs.

When it's all said and done I expect us to be slightly worse due to 3 factors:

1. Tougher schedule
2. Carr > Routt
3. Huge ****ing learning curve for Dontari Poe

Seriously, how much learning does it take to play nose tackle. I would think being a 380 beast with the responsibility of collapsing the pocket takes the brain function of a bag of hammers.

I don't think we'll miss Carr as much as everyone thinks and I welcome a tougher schedule, it will make us a better team and if we get a playoff spot which we will because we will beat Denver twice, it will give us a better shot to go deeper.

**bevischief** · 07-20-2012, 04:53 AM

I expect them to win.

BoneKrusher · 07-20-2012, 06:16 AM

if the Offense can do better at converting third downs this defense could be top Five.

ThatRaceCardGuy · 07-20-2012, 06:28 AM

IMO there are five key factors to our defense being great.

1. Safety play. Berry is back, and instantly improves last years good defense. Lewis showed a lot of potential last year and really turned it on towards the end of the year.
2. If Houston plays at the level he did the last few games, Tamba and Houston could be one of the best pass rushing duos in the league this year. Our line backers will be the strength of our Defense. DJ, Houston, and Tamba will be fun to watch. The wildcard is who will step up and be our fourth ?
3. Corner play dropped of just a bit, but not too much. I expect Brandon and Rout to play a lot more man with tighter coverage IF Houston and Tamba are able to consistently pressure the QB it makes tighter outside coverage possible. Alot depends on how we play in nickle coverage and who our nickle CB will be. Arenas was okay last year, but he needs to start improving. With the amount of passing going on in the league, its important for a teams nickle CB to be at almost the same level as the starting CBs. We addressed this need in the draft, lets hope it pans out.
4. Offense putting points on the board, and converting 3rd and short consistently. Eazier said than done.
5. D Line. The difference between this D being outstanding/great and middle of road falls on those three guys up front . If Poe is able to provide pressure we dominate, if Poe cant we're a top 15-10 D.

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ThatRaceCardGuy I BRAUGHT THE BOOZE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: KU VILLE Casino cash: $10007253	IMO there are five key factors to our defense being great. 1. Safety play. Berry is back, and instantly improves last years good defense. Lewis showed a lot of potential last year and really turned it on towards the end of the year. 2. If Houston plays at the level he did the last few games, Tamba and Houston could be one of the best pass rushing duos in the league this year. Our line backers will be the strength of our Defense. DJ, Houston, and Tamba will be fun to watch. The wildcard is who will step up and be our fourth ? 3. Corner play dropped of just a bit, but not too much. I expect Brandon and Rout to play a lot more man with tighter coverage IF Houston and Tamba are able to consistently pressure the QB it makes tighter outside coverage possible. Alot depends on how we play in nickle coverage and who our nickle CB will be. Arenas was okay last year, but he needs to start improving. With the amount of passing going on in the league, its important for a teams nickle CB to be at almost the same level as the starting CBs. We addressed this need in the draft, lets hope it pans out. 4. Offense putting points on the board, and converting 3rd and short consistently. Eazier said than done. 5. D Line. The difference between this D being outstanding/great and middle of road falls on those three guys up front . If Poe is able to provide pressure we dominate, if Poe cant we're a top 15-10 D. Last edited by ThatRaceCardGuy; 07-20-2012 at 06:34 AM..
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