Football Will you watch the UFL? - Page 2

Deberg_1990 · 08-12-2009, 04:32 PM

First game in 59 days!

Introuducing the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,182341

With the league making its television debut 59 days from now, the United Football League figured that it might be about time to release some team names and some uniforms. The first two in the books are the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods. Those are the teams you see pictured above, with the Redwoods on the left and the Choo Choo Trains on the right.

It just so happens that these two behemoths will do battle in the UFL's inaugural game on October 10 on Versus.

The uniforms appear to be exactly the same in the design and pattern, with only the fruity colors differing. It doesn't look like the UFL plans on getting all that creative with logos, either.

I'll be honest with you: I'm a little disappointed in Vegas' name. I was hoping for something cheesier and more Vegas-y, like the Las Vegas Gamblers, High Rollers, Pit Bosses, Snake Eyes, or Doublers Down. But no, we get trains. Here's the explanation from the UFL's Roger Goodell, Michael Huyghue:

"Las Vegas was originally established in 1905 with the opening of the Salt Lake, San Pedro and Los Angeles Railroads. We wanted to honor the vast history of the city and the intrinsic benefits that this innovation provided to the community."

Well, hooray for railroad history. There's a topic that captivates America's youth.

As for the Redwoods, a name I like a little better (though it would seem to allow for the color red, or the color of trees to exist somewhere in the uniform), here's the explanation on that one:

"The Redwoods, large, strong trees native to California, symbolize many traits that the UFL and the California franchise plan to embody. The Redwoods and the UFL are reaching for the stars and are eco-friendly."

How important are uniform aesthetics and cool logos and nicknames to the UFL's survival?

The on-field product will certainly be inferior to that of the NFL, so I would guess that things like production value and making sure that nothing looks "minor league" would be important. On the other hand, the XFL and USFL had more distinctive and creative looking squads, and look where they are now. So who knows?

Announcements are still to come on the Florida and New York franchises. All primary colors remain available.

Valiant · 08-12-2009, 05:11 PM

The question is when do we get to use them for online fantasy football..

ClevelandBronco · 08-12-2009, 05:11 PM

Not a chance in hell.

Reerun_KC · 08-12-2009, 05:13 PM

I will put them on for background noise as I assemble the party shak this fall....

**Bugeater** · 08-12-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

You know, im thinking this league might work. a BIG might....

USFL, XFL, AFL and NFL Europe were springtime leagues.

At least this league is in the fall when football thirst is at an all time high.

I would think the thirst for football would be higher in the offseason, and yet none of those other leagues have worked. As for me, I'll check out the first game if I'm not doing anything else, but if it is as lame as the XFL, count me out.

Ultra Peanut · 08-13-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Fridays are high school

Saturdays are College

Sundays are NFL

Whats their other options??

How about not playing in the ****ING FALL?

The idea of another league is to cash in when people crave it. On any given weeknight, you can flip to ESPN and watch a college football game or just watch an extremely popular TV show and get your football fix by actually going to a live game on the weekend.

Deberg_1990 · 08-13-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

How about not playing in the ****ING FALL?

The idea of another league is to cash in when people crave it. On any given weeknight, you can flip to ESPN and watch a college football game or just watch an extremely popular TV show and get your football fix by actually going to a live game on the weekend.

As i mentioned already, they have tried spring time/summer football numerious times with past leagues and failed.

I think they decided to be different this time and go with the fall.

I honestly think this league would be wise to try and sign Vick to help create some "buzz"

Ultra Peanut · 08-13-2009, 10:41 AM

The USFL was doing reasonably well with spring football, and died only when it tried to go head-to-head with the NFL in the fall. And back then, you couldn't watch 60,000 college games on a given weeknight.

The XFL was a complete cluster**** that still might have survived if it hadn't been so reliant upon NBC.

Honestly, this league makes the XFL look sensible.

JD10367 · 08-13-2009, 10:51 AM

I think having the league's season run in the fall is a big mistake. Have it in the spring, when NFL fans are thirsting for anything with a pointy-ended ball. Trying to have a new league go directly against the NFL is business suicide. I don't care if their games happen on the "off" days for the NFL; we wait, like junkies, for training camp and preseason and then the real games to start, and I doubt most of us will turn our attention even fleetingly to a "fake NFL" at the same time. Move it to February-through-July and you've got a deal.

Deberg_1990 · 08-13-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367

I think having the league's season run in the fall is a big mistake. Have it in the spring, when NFL fans are thirsting for anything with a pointy-ended ball. Trying to have a new league go directly against the NFL is business suicide. I don't care if their games happen on the "off" days for the NFL; we wait, like junkies, for training camp and preseason and then the real games to start, and I doubt most of us will turn our attention even fleetingly to a "fake NFL" at the same time. Move it to February-through-July and you've got a deal.

hardcore fans like must of us on this board will always watch. What else are we going to be doing on Wed/thur nights while we are updating our fantasy rosters?

Reerun_KC · 08-13-2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD10367

I think having the league's season run in the fall is a big mistake. Have it in the spring, when NFL fans are thirsting for anything with a pointy-ended ball. Trying to have a new league go directly against the NFL is business suicide. I don't care if their games happen on the "off" days for the NFL; we wait, like junkies, for training camp and preseason and then the real games to start, and I doubt most of us will turn our attention even fleetingly to a "fake NFL" at the same time. Move it to February-through-July and you've got a deal.

Spring time is College basketball.... Also after March madness, its time to get outside and take in the sweet weather.

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-13-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Fridays are high school

Saturdays are College

Sundays are NFL

Whats their other options??

Don't forget MNF

Frosty · 08-13-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

hardcore fans like must of us on this board will always watch. What else are we going to be doing on Wed/thur nights while we are updating our fantasy rosters?

There are college games on now on those nights (Tuesday sometimes, too).

I doubt I'll watch the UFL, except maybe once, out of curiousity.

**Lumpy** · 08-13-2009, 12:15 PM

Only if I was forced to watch.

jidar · 08-13-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumpy

Only if I was forced to watch.

No. No! NO! Stop it! Stop it, please! I beg you! This is sin! This is sin! This is sin! It's a sin, it's a sin, it's a sin!

ChiefMojo · 08-13-2009, 03:14 PM

For DIEHARD football fans, you watch any time football is on... PERIOD! Don't be blinded by the thought of it being a gimmick. Take it for what it is, more football!

08-12-2009, 04:32 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $384454	Will you watch the UFL? First game in 59 days! Introuducing the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods! http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,182341 With the league making its television debut 59 days from now, the United Football League figured that it might be about time to release some team names and some uniforms. The first two in the books are the Las Vegas Locomotives and the California Redwoods. Those are the teams you see pictured above, with the Redwoods on the left and the Choo Choo Trains on the right. It just so happens that these two behemoths will do battle in the UFL's inaugural game on October 10 on Versus. The uniforms appear to be exactly the same in the design and pattern, with only the fruity colors differing. It doesn't look like the UFL plans on getting all that creative with logos, either. I'll be honest with you: I'm a little disappointed in Vegas' name. I was hoping for something cheesier and more Vegas-y, like the Las Vegas Gamblers, High Rollers, Pit Bosses, Snake Eyes, or Doublers Down. But no, we get trains. Here's the explanation from the UFL's Roger Goodell, Michael Huyghue: "Las Vegas was originally established in 1905 with the opening of the Salt Lake, San Pedro and Los Angeles Railroads. We wanted to honor the vast history of the city and the intrinsic benefits that this innovation provided to the community." Well, hooray for railroad history. There's a topic that captivates America's youth. As for the Redwoods, a name I like a little better (though it would seem to allow for the color red, or the color of trees to exist somewhere in the uniform), here's the explanation on that one: "The Redwoods, large, strong trees native to California, symbolize many traits that the UFL and the California franchise plan to embody. The Redwoods and the UFL are reaching for the stars and are eco-friendly." How important are uniform aesthetics and cool logos and nicknames to the UFL's survival? The on-field product will certainly be inferior to that of the NFL, so I would guess that things like production value and making sure that nothing looks "minor league" would be important. On the other hand, the XFL and USFL had more distinctive and creative looking squads, and look where they are now. So who knows? Announcements are still to come on the Florida and New York franchises. All primary colors remain available.
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Ultra Peanut v^V^v^V^v^V^ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Holland* Casino cash: $10005177	The USFL was doing reasonably well with spring football, and died only when it tried to go head-to-head with the NFL in the fall. And back then, you couldn't watch 60,000 college games on a given weeknight. The XFL was a complete cluster**** that still might have survived if it hadn't been so reliant upon NBC. Honestly, this league makes the XFL look sensible. __________________
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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	I think having the league's season run in the fall is a big mistake. Have it in the spring, when NFL fans are thirsting for anything with a pointy-ended ball. Trying to have a new league go directly against the NFL is business suicide. I don't care if their games happen on the "off" days for the NFL; we wait, like junkies, for training camp and preseason and then the real games to start, and I doubt most of us will turn our attention even fleetingly to a "fake NFL" at the same time. Move it to February-through-July and you've got a deal.
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