Chiefs How could anyone believe that Herm Edwards can deliver a Superbowl to KC? - Page 2

Taco John · 10-07-2008, 12:52 PM

I don't mean to come off as a troll - at least not in this thread. But this question confounds me, especially in light of the fact that there seem to be quite a few Herm defenders here (Hermines? srsly). What exactly has Herm demonstrated in his career that could lead anybody to believe that he's capable of running the kind of organization that can win a Championship? The guy seems like he would be a FANTASTIC defensive coordinator to me. But I just don't understand what he's ever done to make anyone believe that he can maintain a consistent football team, let alone navigate the playoffs and deliver a championship.

Reerun_KC · 10-07-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by triple

his first year, when he managed to win like 7 games out of 8 with a backup QB and a team that had very little talent, I approved of the job he was doing.

after the playoff game in Indy, I knew Herm hadn't evolved, and this was not going to end well because the team was crumbling and he and Carl weren't good enough in the draft to fix it.

Very nice take....

Deberg_1990 · 10-07-2008, 01:37 PM

Once again i will ask:

Name one area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

I cant think of one.

Hammock Parties · 10-07-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

...Name one area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

....colquitt's punting average has gone WAY up!

evolve27 · 10-07-2008, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Once again i will ask:

Name one area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

I cant think of one.

We're getting closer to removing Queen Carl!

FAX · 10-07-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by evolve27

We're getting closer to removing Queen Carl!

Good point, right there. It's kind of sad to think that this suffering is worth it, but it probably is.

You go, Herm!

FAX

RustShack · 10-07-2008, 01:42 PM

In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.

Reerun_KC · 10-07-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.

In all fairness, isnt this team mostly full of Herms players?

People scream lack of talent, people praise Herm about his Drafts, yet we have no talent, 90% of this team is Herms players... Yes hypocritcy runs deep... People cant make up their mind, no talent, Herms "keen eye".

Regardless of W/L's, no coach with HIS players should ever lay eggs like they have this year. Those players should play for that coach 100% if they believe in him.

Do the players still believe in Herm?

Hammock Parties · 10-07-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.

As plenty of people have already explained, we don't mind losing. But losing while making ABSOLUTELY NO PROGRESS WHATSOEVER?

Unacceptable.

chiefs1111 · 10-07-2008, 01:49 PM

Herm win a Superbowl?????? Nope not here,not anywhere......

Chief Faithful · 10-07-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Once again i will ask:

Name one area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

I cant think of one.

Name one area of the team that was not decaying when he took over as HC?

By the way I think the secondary, and interior defensive line are greatly improved and have the potential to be outstanding. Also slightly improved are receivers, running backs, and linebackers. Finally, I see reason to believe the Oline will improve over what Herm received. QB is the big question.

chiefs1111 · 10-07-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

As plenty of people have already explained, we don't mind losing. But losing while making ABSOLUTELY NO PROGRESS WHATSOEVER?

Unacceptable.

Exactly.

RustShack · 10-07-2008, 01:54 PM

Our team is full of Herm players, and they are also young young Herm players. They will have up and down games on matter who we have coaching. I however do think there are guys who would do better than Herm, and at the same times there are people who would be doing worse(I know hard to imagine). However I do want Carl/Herm and co gone after this year. It really would be a good team for someone to take over. The team is full of young guys, a lot of them will have some experience after this year and the new organization should have high draft picks to work with and a newly remodeled facilities.

**2112** · 10-07-2008, 01:56 PM

Herm was hired to get the Chiefs into the playoffs. and he did, even though they had a better record under Vermeil the year before. he followed that up with an atrocious display in the Indy playoff game where the Chiefs didn't get a 1st down until late in the 3rd quarter against that 85 Bears defense the Colts had in 2006.

He's a fraud that's being exposed now. one of his biggest supporters and staunchest defenders was htismaqe. what happened to him?

WilliamTheIrish · 10-07-2008, 01:57 PM

Most of the timers here realized immediately this was a Carl hire. Buddies from Philly. Buddies from the early Marty era. Somebody to take the place of Gunther as "the foot shuffling porter"

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-07-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by D2112

Herm was hired to get the Chiefs into the playoffs. and he did, even though they had a better record under Vermeil the year before. he followed that up with an atrocious display in the Indy playoff game where the Chiefs didn't get a 1st down until late in the 3rd quarter against that 85 Bears defense the Colts had in 2006.

He's a fraud that's being exposed now. one of his biggest supporters and staunchest defenders was htismaqe. what happened to him?

10-07-2008, 12:52 PM
Taco John Sapere Aude Join Date: Jun 2001 Casino cash: $617937	How could anyone believe that Herm Edwards can deliver a Superbowl to KC? I don't mean to come off as a troll - at least not in this thread. But this question confounds me, especially in light of the fact that there seem to be quite a few Herm defenders here (Hermines? srsly). What exactly has Herm demonstrated in his career that could lead anybody to believe that he's capable of running the kind of organization that can win a Championship? The guy seems like he would be a FANTASTIC defensive coordinator to me. But I just don't understand what he's ever done to make anyone believe that he can maintain a consistent football team, let alone navigate the playoffs and deliver a championship.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $354454	Once again i will ask: Name one area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over? I cant think of one. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3146954	In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me. __________________
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10-07-2008, 01:54 PM	#27
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3146954	Our team is full of Herm players, and they are also young young Herm players. They will have up and down games on matter who we have coaching. I however do think there are guys who would do better than Herm, and at the same times there are people who would be doing worse(I know hard to imagine). However I do want Carl/Herm and co gone after this year. It really would be a good team for someone to take over. The team is full of young guys, a lot of them will have some experience after this year and the new organization should have high draft picks to work with and a newly remodeled facilities. __________________
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10-07-2008, 01:56 PM	#28
2112 Reset Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $6966765	Herm was hired to get the Chiefs into the playoffs. and he did, even though they had a better record under Vermeil the year before. he followed that up with an atrocious display in the Indy playoff game where the Chiefs didn't get a 1st down until late in the 3rd quarter against that 85 Bears defense the Colts had in 2006. He's a fraud that's being exposed now. one of his biggest supporters and staunchest defenders was htismaqe. what happened to him?
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10-07-2008, 01:57 PM	#29
WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $2650607	Most of the timers here realized immediately this was a Carl hire. Buddies from Philly. Buddies from the early Marty era. Somebody to take the place of Gunther as "the foot shuffling porter"
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