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Old 08-24-2007, 08:49 AM  
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I have pretty much always been in the Croyle camp. I liked the draft pick ... i loved the value of getting him the 3rd round. imo he has very good upside and potiential. He's smart,mobile,has a great arm and his intangibles are top notch. We should of played him instead of Damon Huard when Trent Green got hurt last year from my point of view.

But .........


If this offense is gonna suck this bad from top to bottom... from game plan to dropped passes then i'm not so sure i want a young QB with such good potiential destroy by the process.


We should let Huard get dropped kicks all over the field until our offense stabilizes some. How about making the change after the bye week against Green Bay? I would be all for just waiting to see what's up with McIntosh.

I'd hate to see another young QB get destroyed by martyesqueball

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Old 08-24-2007, 09:32 AM   #16
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I think that the reason a lot of people are struggling with which camp to stand behind is because there are a lot of fans that are in denial of what this team has now become - a youthful team in the rebuilding stage.

If you can manage to convince yourself that this is the case (which it is) and not to expect too many wins and to expect a lot of trials and tribulations, then I think the decision is plain as day - Croyle is the way to go.

If Huard starts we are only delaying the inevitable because we are in denial of what this team is.

Let's let the team build, the youth get more experience, and maybe a couple of years from now we can finally win a damn playoff game.
Ehh, I dunno. Where's the budding stars along the OL? Where are the budding stars along the DL? Is Croyle the future, or is he the best we have under the age of 30? Our starting CB's are anything but youthful. Bowe looks promising, but is he going to start, and is he the reason we're not looking better on O?

This shit goes back to our OL. We watched our Cadilac turn into a Chevy Nova in a matter of 2-3 years and didn't do much, if anything, to make it better. Case in Point: Kyle Turley is our starting RT
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:39 AM   #17
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If Huard starts we are only delaying the inevitable because we are in denial of what this team is.
not if Croyle gets killed in the process

building is one thing .... destroying a young QB is another.


how much is Croyle gonna develop when every game is full of dropped passed and sacks?
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:46 AM   #18
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not if Croyle gets killed in the process

building is one thing .... destroying a young QB is another.


how much is Croyle gonna develop when every game is full of dropped passed and sacks?
So are you implying we wait to put Croyle in until the team is good? Isn't that called a QB controversy?
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:48 AM   #19
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not if Croyle gets killed in the process

building is one thing .... destroying a young QB is another.


how much is Croyle gonna develop when every game is full of dropped passed and sacks?
And this will differ from his career at Alabama how?

If anything, Croyle is the perfect QBOTF to overcome the adversities he will face in KC simply because of the crappy deck of cards he was dealt in Bama.

He's already been there, done that.


He'll be fine.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:48 AM   #20
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So are you implying we wait to put Croyle in until the team is good? Isn't that called a QB controversy?
i don't care what it's called


i want what gives Croyle the best chance to develop into our QBoTF.



as you said, we are rebuilding ..... waiting a few games until McIntosh gets back and the OL stabilizes a bit will give Croyle a better chance for success. Just throwing Croyle in there because he's young doesn't make any sense.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:50 AM   #21
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And this will differ from his career at Alabama how?

If anything, Croyle is the perfect QBOTF to overcome the adversities he will face in KC simply because of the crappy deck of cards he was dealt in Bama.

He's already been there, done that.


He'll be fine.
really?

and where do you think all his 'history of injuries' comes from?


their offense was sucking and Croyle dam near got killed ..... with the bigger and more violent defense in the NFL they will probably finish the job if we continue to suck.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:54 AM   #22
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really?

and where do you think all his 'history of injuries' comes from?


their offense was sucking and Croyle dam near got killed ..... with the bigger and more violent defense in the NFL they will probably finish the job if we continue to suck.

maybe Herm should do something?
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really?

and where do you think all his 'history of injuries' comes from?


their offense was sucking and Croyle dam near got killed ..... with the bigger and more violent defense in the NFL they will probably finish the job if we continue to suck.
That's gonna happen to whoever we put back there. Remember Trent?

This is the NFL; people get hurt.

Croyle's quick release is the best chance for any of our QBs staying alive this year.
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Croyle is the right choice. However, having the worst offensive line in football means we will probably need both.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:57 AM   #25
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That's gonna happen to whoever we put back there. Remember Trent?

This is the NFL; people get hurt.

Croyle's quick release is the best chance for any of our QBs staying alive this year.
i'm not worry about Huard staying alive


i'm only concern with the long term success of the team .... imo that means putting Croyle's develop ahead of this years team success.
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They said on the radio last night after the game that Brodie Croyle is going to be our starter
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I agree with ChiefsFan4Life, I am loving the rebuilding that is happening in KC....
Agreed...and im all for starting Croyle.


But after witnessing the meltdown here last night and the Arrowhead crowd reaction, im convinced the fans wont be able to stomach the ups and downs of a first year QB. It could get ugly.


The fans in KC have been spoiled by success. Not playoff success obviously, but in the regular season they have alway been given hope. Its looking more and more like thats not going to be the case this year. This is new for alot of KC fans who started following the team around 89-90.
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Im with you Laz, I would start Huard this year.

Because then you always know if the Chiefs start off the season really really bad they can always make that change by going with a young quarterback afterwards. In case the Chiefs are poop, they would have nothing to lose by starting Huard, and then making the change to a young QB. Plus, I don't think Croyle is "exactly" ready. Mind you, his cast around him doesn't help.

But I look at it this way, the Chiefs only hope of winning games this year is by running the ball and playing good defense. That realistically is their only hope of winning games. Outside of that, they ain't gonna win games any other way. And to compliment that, they need a QB who they can ask that doesn't lose them games, just simply come in and play a simple game, don't turn the ball over. And Huard did that last year, he did it admirably.

*Im trying to spin this in a positive way by saying it could be a win-win situation either way by starting Huard this year. But, he is the best fit for their situation.
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im convinved the fans wont be able to stomach the ups and downs of a first year QB. It could get ugly.


The fans in KC have been spoiled by success.
and just let me say ............. fuck YOU!


if you think so little of Chiefs fans then go root for the faiders beyotch.
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and just let me say ............. fuck YOU!


if you think so little of Chiefs fans then go root for the faiders beyotch.

Did you not hear the crowd reaction last night??? and its only preseason. Wait till we lose to the Raiders 10-9
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