How do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season?

[CoMoChief]

I've been on other boards around the internet sports world and there have been alot of people that dog the Chiefs. Some people just plain do not know what they're talking about, but yet others have some key points. Put aside the fact that you are a die hard Chiefs fan and think, how do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season?


In all honesty, I think this is a do or die season. We will more than likely lose Shields after this season, and possibly Roaf, but then again I have heard that Roaf my play for a couple more seasons, if that's true, and granted he can still play at a high level, then I think our O-line is in good shape. If they both leave, then our line will still be ok, but our younger guys have to step up big time to fill those kinds of shoes. From what I have heard from the OTA's, I don't think that will be a problem.

Here's a question that someone from another board asked me and it got me to think. "If the Chiefs play some teams with good defenses, and if their offense has a few bad games, can you really rely on their defense to win a few games for you?" I told him I didn't really know. I think our defensive line needs to step up big and play this season. Last season it was arguably the strongest part of our defense, but that's not saying much as our LB core was awful as was our secondary. This season on paper it is probably the weakest part of our defense. Can Jared Allen produce even more than what he did last season, or will Carlos Hall take away some PT from him because God knows that Hicks has a secure spot as LE, which pisses me off to no end. Can Dalton produce like he did last season, chances are that he will. Sims is doo-doo butter. He is simply a bust whether you like it or not. I can't believe that CP and DV listened to that jack off buddy from UNC in drafting Sims. I can understand that a QB can often be a bust in the NFL because the QB is the hardest position, but DT??? Come on, given his size and strength, how hard is it to be productive? Siavii needs to replace him as the starter I think. Our LBs will be our strength, no doubt. We will have some of the best speed in the NFL. Can Mitchell hold down the fort at MLB? Last year he showed some signs but he is VERY inconsistant and is a fairly poor tackler as a MLB. He is very athletic and thats a plus and from what I have heard in the OTAs is that he's kicking ass. But thats in no pads. Can he wrap up is the question. Can Ambrose handle the load while Warfield serves his suspension if there is one? In my eyes hes another McCleon but older. Yeah he made the Pro-Bowl, but that was almost a decade ago. Having Deion Sanders is one thing and is the only exception to that. The first 4 games of the Chiefs schedule are tough, real tough. We have always had close games with Denver and Oakland and the Eagles are one of the best teams in the NFL and the Jets are gonna be better than they were last season I think. If we can go 2-2, then its a sure playoff bound Chiefs team in 2005. If we fall to 0-4, then I think this season will be like the last one.

The defensive line and Mitchell I believe are the keys to this defense getting better or respectable. We need a defense that can win us games because our offense wont be there for us all the time, they can only do so much. I'm talking about a defense that can help a team win 14-10 or something like that. I doubt the Chiefs can make that happen. I still think it will take some time to gel the players as one defensive unit. I can see us being very good mid to late season, which is what we need I think, I think its always important to thrive going in to the playoffs. After we play at SD I think our schedule is very favorable. What do you guys think?

NYJ - W
@OAK - W
@DEN - L
PHL - L
Bye
WSH - W
@MIA - W
@SD - L
OAK - W
@BUF - W
@HOU - W
NE - L
DEN - W
@DAL - W
@NYG - W
SD - W
CIN - W

Overall Record 12-4 AFC West Division Champs

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by bobbything

I've heard the sports writers say that the offense will slip a little. However, it's very hard to ignore the defensive moves KC made this year. Regardless of how horrible the D has been over the last 4-5 seasons, on paper, they look to have a very solid defensive core.

I think too many people are taking the last few years into account when analyzing this team. I don't see the offense slipping below a top 5 spot all season. And, since I honestly think that the defense, on paper, has drastically improved, I think this team is one of 4 to beat in the AFC; along with Indy, New England, and (yes, I believe this) Baltimore.

I believe the Chiefs will win the West with an 11-5, maybe 12-4, record. The Rai ders will mimic the Chiefs of 2000 where, without a decent RB, they're going to be chucking the ball 50 times per game and finish 7-9. The Donkos will do their typical 9-7, maybe 10-6, season while holding serve at home most of the time. The Chargers are the "who knows" of this conference. I mean, up until last year, Drew Brees has been highly mediocre, so why would anyone think that he's going to be as good in a Marty Schottenheimer offense? He had a 1995-96 Steve Bono like season, and will follow it up with a 1996-97 Steve Bono like season. Chargers go 8-8.

KC wins the conference by at least 2 games.

The playoffs are an entirely different story. I just want to get through the season first.

Well said. I see no reason why the offense would slip either. We should be better, not worse. The defense should be able to secure a lead in the 4th unlike the recent past. We win the West.

I think 12-4 or better is a reality.

[irishjayhawk]

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

I've been on other boards around the internet sports world and there have been alot of people that dog the Chiefs. Some people just plain do not know what they're talking about, but yet others have some key points. Put aside the fact that you are a die hard Chiefs fan and think, how do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season?


In all honesty, I think this is a do or die season. We will more than likely lose Shields after this season, and possibly Roaf, but then again I have heard that Roaf my play for a couple more seasons, if that's true, and granted he can still play at a high level, then I think our O-line is in good shape. If they both leave, then our line will still be ok, but our younger guys have to step up big time to fill those kinds of shoes. From what I have heard from the OTA's, I don't think that will be a problem.

Here's a question that someone from another board asked me and it got me to think. "If the Chiefs play some teams with good defenses, and if their offense has a few bad games, can you really rely on their defense to win a few games for you?" I told him I didn't really know. I think our defensive line needs to step up big and play this season. Last season it was arguably the strongest part of our defense, but that's not saying much as our LB core was awful as was our secondary. This season on paper it is probably the weakest part of our defense. Can Jared Allen produce even more than what he did last season, or will Carlos Hall take away some PT from him because God knows that Hicks has a secure spot as LE, which pisses me off to no end. Can Dalton produce like he did last season, chances are that he will. Sims is doo-doo butter. He is simply a bust whether you like it or not. I can't believe that CP and DV listened to that jack off buddy from UNC in drafting Sims. I can understand that a QB can often be a bust in the NFL because the QB is the hardest position, but DT??? Come on, given his size and strength, how hard is it to be productive? Siavii needs to replace him as the starter I think. Our LBs will be our strength, no doubt. We will have some of the best speed in the NFL. Can Mitchell hold down the fort at MLB? Last year he showed some signs but he is VERY inconsistant and is a fairly poor tackler as a MLB. He is very athletic and thats a plus and from what I have heard in the OTAs is that he's kicking ass. But thats in no pads. Can he wrap up is the question. Can Ambrose handle the load while Warfield serves his suspension if there is one? In my eyes hes another McCleon but older. Yeah he made the Pro-Bowl, but that was almost a decade ago. Having Deion Sanders is one thing and is the only exception to that. The first 4 games of the Chiefs schedule are tough, real tough. We have always had close games with Denver and Oakland and the Eagles are one of the best teams in the NFL and the Jets are gonna be better than they were last season I think. If we can go 2-2, then its a sure playoff bound Chiefs team in 2005. If we fall to 0-4, then I think this season will be like the last one.

The defensive line and Mitchell I believe are the keys to this defense getting better or respectable. We need a defense that can win us games because our offense wont be there for us all the time, they can only do so much. I'm talking about a defense that can help a team win 14-10 or something like that. I doubt the Chiefs can make that happen. I still think it will take some time to gel the players as one defensive unit. I can see us being very good mid to late season, which is what we need I think, I think its always important to thrive going in to the playoffs. After we play at SD I think our schedule is very favorable. What do you guys think?

NYJ - W
@OAK - W
@DEN - L
PHL - L
Bye
WSH - W
@MIA - W
@SD - L
OAK - W
@BUF - W
@HOU - W
NE - L
DEN - W
@DAL - W
@NYG - W
SD - W
CIN - W

Overall Record 12-4 AFC West Division Champs

I disagree with the NE Loss but I would tack that loss on a different game. NE lost both coordinators. Thus, I don't think they're going to be as good as they were.

[Husky4506]

Yes it is a do or die season if we wanna be true contenders. Are is gonna better no doubt. Its the Offense, they have to be at least up to par if we want the playoffs and hopefully SB. If we get one more o-line man it would be great and we have the best back up in the league

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

I've been on other boards around the internet sports world and there have been alot of people that dog the Chiefs. Some people just plain do not know what they're talking about, but yet others have some key points. Put aside the fact that you are a die hard Chiefs fan and think, how do you REALLY think the Chiefs will do this season?


In all honesty, I think this is a do or die season. We will more than likely lose Shields after this season, and possibly Roaf, but then again I have heard that Roaf my play for a couple more seasons, if that's true, and granted he can still play at a high level, then I think our O-line is in good shape. If they both leave, then our line will still be ok, but our younger guys have to step up big time to fill those kinds of shoes. From what I have heard from the OTA's, I don't think that will be a problem.

Here's a question that someone from another board asked me and it got me to think. "If the Chiefs play some teams with good defenses, and if their offense has a few bad games, can you really rely on their defense to win a few games for you?" I told him I didn't really know. I think our defensive line needs to step up big and play this season. Last season it was arguably the strongest part of our defense, but that's not saying much as our LB core was awful as was our secondary. This season on paper it is probably the weakest part of our defense. Can Jared Allen produce even more than what he did last season, or will Carlos Hall take away some PT from him because God knows that Hicks has a secure spot as LE, which pisses me off to no end. Can Dalton produce like he did last season, chances are that he will. Sims is doo-doo butter. He is simply a bust whether you like it or not. 1.I can't believe that CP and DV listened to that jack off buddy from UNC in drafting Sims. I can understand that a QB can often be a bust in the NFL because the QB is the hardest position, but DT??? Come on, given his size and strength, how hard is it to be productive? Siavii needs to replace him as the starter I think. Our LBs will be our strength, no doubt. We will have some of the best speed in the NFL. Can Mitchell hold down the fort at MLB? Last year he showed some signs but he is VERY inconsistant and is a fairly poor tackler as a MLB. He is very athletic and thats a plus and from what I have heard in the OTAs is that he's kicking ass. But thats in no pads. Can he wrap up is the question. 2.Can Ambrose handle the load while Warfield serves his suspension if there is one? In my eyes hes another McCleon but older. Yeah he made the Pro-Bowl, but that was almost a decade ago. Having Deion Sanders is one thing and is the only exception to that. The first 4 games of the Chiefs schedule are tough, real tough. We have always had close games with Denver and Oakland and the Eagles are one of the best teams in the NFL and the3. Jets are gonna be better than they were last season I think. If we can go 2-2, then its a sure playoff bound Chiefs team in 2005. If we fall to 0-4, then I think this season will be like the last one.

The defensive line and Mitchell I believe are the keys to this defense getting better or respectable. We need a defense that can win us games because our offense wont be there for us all the time, they can only do so much. I'm talking about a defense that can help a team win 14-10 or something like that. I doubt the Chiefs can make that happen. I still think it will take some time to gel the players as one defensive unit. I can see us being very good mid to late season, which is what we need I think, I think its always important to thrive going in to the playoffs. After we play at SD I think our schedule is very favorable. What do you guys think?

NYJ - W
@OAK - W
@DEN - L
PHL - L
Bye
WSH - W
@MIA - W
@SD - L
OAK - W
@BUF - W
@HOU - W
NE - L
DEN - W
@DAL - W
@NYG - W
SD - W
CIN - W

Overall Record 12-4 AFC West Division Champs

Just a couple of points.
I've highligted the points I want address.

1. Sims was rated highly by almost every one coming out of school, and the person that recommended him to Dick and Carl was only one source of info that they considered in this selection.

2. No, Ambrose is not another McCleon.
In spite of his size, or lack thereof, Ambrose is a physical corner that fits into Gun's scheme at the #2 corner spot.
McCleon is more of a zone CB, and works better against the slot.

3. Jets may, or may not be better.
I have my doubts.
However, we'll be catching them early, while they are still trying to learn a new system.

I consider the Jets and Raiders very winnable games, and think we have a chance against Philly.

I think we come out of that first 4 game stretch 2-2 at the worst.

JMO.

[Dayze]

I really think we'll get to the playoffs. The defense should be just improved enough to not give up 35 pts per game.

However, I'm not sure about any playoff wins at this point.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by dayzeofthenew

I really think we'll get to the playoffs. The defense should be just improved enough to not give up 35 pts per game.

However, I'm not sure about any playoff wins at this point.

I think we'll go 11-5 in the regualr season and host a playoff game.

If it's at home, or against the Colts or Ravens I'd bet a team of Navy Seals in a loser-chops-off-their-scrote-pact and still sleep like a baby the night before the game...

[MGRS13]

8 and 8 maybe 9 and 7. No playoffs. Still to many holes in that D.

[Deberg_1990]

8-8.....I pray for a 12-4 Super Bowl season, but im more realistic. We still have the same D-line, and a few of the crap players over the past few seasons: Hicks, Bartee, McCleon, Sims, Mitchell, Barber and even Warfield to some extent. They have all had their share of poor play. This D should have been completely rebuilt 3 years ago.

[jspchief]

I'm tempering myself.

There's no reason to think we won't be better than last year, so I'm thinking around 9 or 10 wins. If we could win seven, and beat some of the teams we beat last year, I have to think our defensive additions will add a few wins.

However, I do think the team has the potential to be better if they gel quickly. i don't think lack of talent will hurt us on D nearly as much as lack of chemistry. If the D comes together quickly, we could be very good.

[StcChief]

12-4 would be great. L@Denver, L - Pats, L-Philly, L @SD

11-5 seems very doable. same 4 losses and a freaky loss on road Dallas or Buffalo.

Either way Playoffs with AFCW or wildcard.

[PastorMikH]

I think that if the MLB and WR spots come together, and all the important players stay healthy, we'll be fighting the Colts and the Pats for a trip to the SB.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by nm_dbf

12-4 would be great. L@Denver, L - Pats, L-Philly, L @SD

11-5 seems very doable. same 4 losses and a freaky loss on road Dallas or Buffalo.

Either way Playoffs with AFCW or wildcard.

If we lose all four of those games you listed, I'll be worried about us in the play-offs. This team needs to beat the quality opponents, especially at home. We need to be able to show that we belong on the porch with the big dogs.

[Deberg_1990]

Tough question: If the D fails again this year, do they fire Gunther again? IMO, they will be forced too, if he fails to turn this thing around in 2 seasons. Plus they finally gave him some new ammunition to work with.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Tough question: If the D fails again this year, do they fire Gunther again? IMO, they will be forced too, if he fails to turn this thing around in 2 seasons. Plus they finally gave him some new ammunition to work with.

I couldn't disagree more. For starters, that will only give Gun one year with actual talent on the team. Not many coaches can have that big of an effect that fast. Second, the D is going to need some continuity. Constantly changing coaches and players makes it hard to build chemistry. We'd be firing him just as many of the players were starting to really grasp what he's doing.

I'd say Gun needs at least one more year after this one, to mold a D with the new talent he has.