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Old 09-09-2024, 05:25 AM  
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Old 11-19-2024, 09:46 PM   #16
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Watched the first episode today. Billy Bob Thornton is so, so good. I've got season tickets to whatever that guy is in.

I don't have much experience with Sheridan shows outside the first season of Tulsa King (which I thought was entertaining but not necessarily really high quality TV), but this series has potential to be a lot more.
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Old 11-19-2024, 10:48 PM   #17
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I watched a few Bill Bob interviews on this new series and I am a fan of Thornton. That said wtf dude are you becoming a Depp clone or what? The headwrap dangling earrinds and Fedora arrrrrr matey I'm a pirate!

This has my interest for the simple fact I have worked in the energy field as a surveyor.

The engineering firm I have worked for is a major player in oil gas and power transmission. They do land planning design and easement acquisitions. Never once have met a landman in the field and we are always nearly the first in the field along with Lawyers. Its the Lawyer that goes out and secures leases and purchases agreements on land. They usually have multiple licenses in engineering Land Surveying and of course real estate law among others. Maybe this is the Landman? Geologists Land Surveyors and Lawyers. I will watch to see who they are talking about.
Sounds like you are on a different side of the industry. For exploration & production of oil and natural gas, the Landmen are responsible for acquiring mineral rights, curing title problems, keeping surface owners happy, and babysitting the mineral owners in general. A lot of Landmen have Law degrees, though it's not required.

I have a Landman degree, though I worked on the Division Order side of the business. The Landmen would help us when we came across title curative problems. A lot of my job was focused on the math element of calculating royalties & overriding royalties in the wells. They taught us all this math stuff in the college Landman classes. It can get pretty convoluted if you end up with 1,000 people in a single well, all of it chopped up in 1,000 unequal pieces. I liked the fact Division Order stuff did not require me to negotiate with anyone, which is a major part of the Landman job. There is more of a "Sales guy" element to the Landman side of the business.
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Old 11-26-2024, 09:32 PM   #18
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Old 11-28-2024, 09:46 PM   #19
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I watched a few Bill Bob interviews on this new series and I am a fan of Thornton. That said wtf dude are you becoming a Depp clone or what? The headwrap dangling earrinds and Fedora arrrrrr matey I'm a pirate!

This has my interest for the simple fact I have worked in the energy field as a surveyor.

The engineering firm I have worked for is a major player in oil gas and power transmission. They do land planning design and easement acquisitions. Never once have met a landman in the field and we are always nearly the first in the field along with Lawyers. Its the Lawyer that goes out and secures leases and purchases agreements on land. They usually have multiple licenses in engineering Land Surveying and of course real estate law among others. Maybe this is the Landman? Geologists Land Surveyors and Lawyers. I will watch to see who they are talking about.
I was a Land Rep for 15 years in the natural gas transmission pipeline industry. Just the opposite as you spoke of in the oil and gas industry. The survey crew contacted me directly, as I was the first point of contact with all landowners. The majority of my work was land access and opposite to mineral rights which is a totally different line of work in my opinion. Though even gas storage rights, (old oil fields convert to natural gas storage) were researched and landowners contacted by Land Reps prior to lawyers.

I enjoyed the contact with all levels of negotiation, less the third-party attorneys who really didn't have the knowledge to represent the landowners. Easement right have become more distinct over the years. My company under the Cities Service umbrella, that include 30 + companies in the early 1900's were written as blanket easement that could be defined as vague as 1/4 section easements. Courts declared that those easements were to be more finely defined in more recent times. Easements were acquired by the rod's usually, and didn't specify a width which made my job difficult at times.

I have not seen any Landman Episodes yet but anticipate a negative view of my occupation. I was respected as a professional and would be told I was very fair with the reasonable landowner.
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Old 12-02-2024, 11:07 AM   #20
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I have not seen any Landman Episodes yet but anticipate a negative view of my occupation. I was respected as a professional and would be told I was very fair with the reasonable landowner.
I'd say the most negative aspect of the oil and gas industry depicted by the show is the lack of safety.
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Watched the first episode today. Billy Bob Thornton is so, so good. I've got season tickets to whatever that guy is in.

I don't have much experience with Sheridan shows outside the first season of Tulsa King (which I thought was entertaining but not necessarily really high quality TV), but this series has potential to be a lot more.
Tulsa King is the one Sheridan show that feels different from the rest. It's definitely it's own thing. This is more along the lines of his other series.

Don't get me wrong though, love Tulsa King it for what it is.

I highly recommend Lioness.
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Tulsa King is the one Sheridan show that feels different from the rest. It's definitely it's own thing. This is more along the lines of his other series.

Don't get me wrong though, love Tulsa King it for what it is.

I highly recommend Lioness.
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As a retired petroleum geologist I was really looking forward to this show. Alas, my experience working in the Kansas patch resembles very little to the storyline in "Landman". Most Kansas oil companies have small staffs or 10 or less and we wear different hats. I even did a fair amount of landman work which was mostly going to County Register of Deeds offices and check land records to see who owns the minerals for leasing.

That said, I have enjoyed the scenes where the roustabouts are working on wells. It's hazardous work. In the early 80's I was on a well just south of Great Bend and another rig was located half a mile away. The neighboring rig exploded in a fireball during a drill stem test killing several roughnecks. We ran over there and did what we could which wasn't much. A couple of roughnecks were on fire when we arrived and all we could do was put out the fire. This was back in the day before OSHA was really involved. The fire extinguishers were in the dog house which was on fire so we grabbed sacks of bentonite mud and threw that on them. It got the fires out but they were too badly burned to survive. The derrick hand was 60 feet up in the crows nest when it blew. He was trapped and decided to try and jump for the mud pit rather than burn. He missed the pit and died from blunt force trauma from the fall. What a ****ing nightmare.

It's an exciting career but the boom/bust nature of the business isn't for the faint of heart. I'll keep watching Landman just to remind me of my career.
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I like that one too, but I don't think it's one of his better shows. I have yet to see him make anything bad though, so that's not an insult.
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Accurate or not I love that we have multiple people here who have experiences in this field and have shared them. Fascinating stuff, all. Genuine thank you.
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The 1st season of Tulsa King is pretty good. I thought Sheriton had already grown bored with it. I was surprised when they announced season 2. I fully expect one will have to chase these around soon to find what streaming service airs it. I am so damn tired of Sheriton.
I just watched Sheridan on Rogan the other day. Doesn’t come across as a bad dude.
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I just watched Sheridan on Rogan the other day. Doesn’t come across as a bad dude.
Yeah he's a likable enough fellow. He is a prolific son of a bitch that keeps turning out interesting shows. But he gets tired of them loses his focus and moves to the next idea. He leaves every other show in the wake of the next new hit. It's like some sort of attention deficit disorder.
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