Do you believe that Pro Football Focus is any good at grading players?

[K9Texan]

I'm not qualified to say. As an Ohio State fan I always enjoy reading the grades players received after each game. There is no way for the average fan to truly know how well ALL of the individual players played.

For instance, a former Ohio State coach created his own podcast and he obtains game videos and breaks them down for fans and essentially grades the players' performances. For a rabid fan, it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Does anyone do that for K.C. games?

Anyway, PFF DOES and so my question is, again, do you believe they're any good at it?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

How can you possibly "grade" a player when you aren't basing it off the assignment or play call it's COMPLETELY ridiculous

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You have basement Podcasters try to break it down but it's super cringey

[MarkDavis'Haircut]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

How can you possibly "grade" a player when you aren't basing it off the assignment or play call it's COMPLETELY ridiculous

Supposedly, some of their graders are from Bangladesh or something. Without knowing the play call, it is hard to judge.

[Sassy Squatch]

The grades are absolutely worthless at all positions. There was a game in 2022 where Frank Clark beat Trent Williams on back to back plays that resulted in a safety and slammed the door shut on any possibility they could even attempt to come back into the game. He almost got a 90 in PBLK that game. Complete Bupkus.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

How can you possibly "grade" a player when you aren't basing it off the assignment or play call it's COMPLETELY ridiculous

I mean run, pass, block or tackle it's really not that difficult is it?

[JimNasium]

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch

The grades are absolutely worthless at all positions. There was a game in 2022 where Frank Clark beat Trent Williams on back to back plays that resulted in a safety and slammed the door shut on any possibility they could even attempt to come back into the game. He almost got a 90 in PBLK that game. Complete Bupkus.

Frank Clark, the geniuos [CPS] and greatly misunderstood, Chiefs defensive savant. Man cannot grade the Shark, that is the domain of the football gods.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I think PFF can provide some decent anaysis/info. Sometimes. Sometimes their takes are BS. But I also think that there's not one site or analyst that can adequately analyze the whole game or player most of the time. I think you have to gather analyses from as many credible analysts as you can, like Kurt Warner and JT O'Sullivan (even Jordan Palmer) for the QB/WR general offense stuff, Baldinger for defense, and so on. The idea is to find a consensus among several analysts. If that meshes with whatever PFF says, it's probably accurate. IF not, I tend to go with Kurt or JT or Baldy over PFF.

Baldy’s analysis is generally spot on. I love his film breakdown. PFF is complete shit, IMO.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Baldy’s analysis is generally spot on. I love his film breakdown. PFF is complete shit, IMO.

He does a good breakdown. I just wish he would make it look a little more professional vs it looking like he recorded from the TV using his phone.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

I mean run, pass, block or tackle it's really not that difficult is it?

Whaaaat?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Baldy’s analysis is generally spot on. I love his film breakdown. PFF is complete shit, IMO.

Yeah, I probably wasn't clear enough in my original post. All I meant was that PFF's grades were generally worthless, to the point that I rarely bother to remember them, but sometimes their analyses about how they arrived at the score/rating can be useful. Sometimes.

[DRM08]

I don’t trust them. Week 1 of 2022 season against the Cardinals. Mahomes had one of the best games of his career. PFF graded him 70/100, which is barely starting QB level. It made no sense.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I don’t trust them. Week 1 of 2022 season against the Cardinals. Mahomes had one of the best games of his career. PFF graded him 70/100, which is barely starting QB level. It made no sense.

Yeah they're all over the map, very little consistency

I put this > < much stock in their takes

[displacedinMN]

I dont believe any article or talking head.

[gordonelloyd]

It’s easy to look at PFF stats and ratings, as it’s hard to find anything else that breaks it into numbers.

But I think you have to know somethings wrong when, for example, you look at how they rated last year‘s QBs. The OP’s guy, Stroud, is ranked number 13. given what he did last year and where he took his team, I just think that’s way too low.

I think I would’ve easily ranked Stroud above Herbert, Cousins, Tua, Stafford and Prescott. Goeff(At 10) and Love [at 12) also got rated way too low in my view based on what they did and where they took their teams. I think that I would put Stroud slightly ahead of those 2 largely due to his league leading low of only five interceptions. But I could be convinced easily to rearrange those three rankings.

Purdy came in at 6 and I would leave him ahead of Stroud, although I believe I am a bigger fan of Purdy than many on this board. The top three were respectively, Allen, Mahomes and Jackson and I would not argue too much with that, although of course I feel Mahomes should have topped the list.

So I think the quarterback rankings are a good illustration of how misleading the PFF stats and rankings can be.

[Danguardace]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni

Whaaaat?

Believe it or not what they are analysing isn't that difficult. Pff grades are largely about efficiency they are not getting super technical did the Linemen move the los, did the running break a tackle or make somebody miss, was the pass accurate etc

What the assignment was is most irrelevant outside of the obvious.

Stop being obtuse