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Old 09-25-2024, 08:36 PM  
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Hell, is college football now semi-pro feeder system greased by NIL $$?

What is the hell is going on?

1) University of Nevada QB of 3-0 team quits because he claims he has not been paid $150K. Rumors are that he has better NIL offers for next year from a bigger school if he red shirts.

2) USC def tackle quits after transferring from Georgia because he is not happy with his NIL. Also red shirts.

3) Recently, QB Williams left OU to go to USC because he was promised more NIL and free fingernail polish. (I'm a bitter OU fan.)

4) The University of Tennessee is raising ticket prices to pay for NIL program.

Where is all this headed?

The haves vs the have-nots?

Would you want to be a head coach in all this NIL mess?

Are we going to have a college draft where HS athletes get drafted?
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Old 09-26-2024, 05:48 AM   #16
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The NIL is a good thing since players now get a cut of the profits being made off of them. But yeah, there needs to be some kind of rules and transparency to the whole thing. It's kind of a mess rn.
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Old 09-26-2024, 06:23 AM   #17
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Old 09-26-2024, 06:34 AM   #18
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I think most people are in agreement the players should be compensated given the money in the sport.

Here are my issues:

1. Can the payments be transparent? Why all the money under the table? If Florida wants to pay a QB $15 million, why can't it be on the books and visible to the world?

2. Can transfers be limited again? Maybe limit it to a player gets one transfer and can play immediately. You transfer a second time and you have to sit out a year if you're not a grad transfer.

3. Can we get rid of all the tampering? Nobody should be communicating with anybody that's not a part of their program and is not in the transfer portal.

4. The business side should be limited to a timeframe. Nobody should be shaking down a school for more money once practice starts in August.

With taxes involved you bet the info will be out there.
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Old 09-26-2024, 06:35 AM   #19
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I am torn on NIL. In some ways I am in support of it as players should profit off their name (because schools definitely were). In other ways I am against it for the reasons you mentioned above.
Thought the free education was payment?
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Old 09-26-2024, 06:51 AM   #20
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Thought the free education was payment?
And in many cases room and board.
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Old 09-26-2024, 07:02 AM   #21
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Reggie Bush is actually suing the NCAA because it, and USC, profited by using his likeness when he was in college, and he never "legally" got paid for it.

Just think of all the implications if he wins. That opens the door for all past players to receive payment, for their time in college.
I doubt he wins, because the NIL was not in existence, and I don't think they're going to grandfather it in, nor do I think they should. It's no different than past NFL players not making the same amount of money as current NFL players. Just one more similar situation as the NFL. And the thought of that just doesn't seem right.
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Old 09-26-2024, 07:05 AM   #22
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Reggie Bush is actually suing the NCAA because it and USC, profited by using his lightness when he was in college, and he never "legally" got paid for it. Just think of all the implications if he wins. That opens the door for all past players to receive payment, for their time in college.
I doubt he wins, because the nil was not in existence, and I don't think they're going to grandfather it in, nor do I think they should. It's no different than NFL players a long time ago not making the same amount of money as current NFL players. But just the thought of that seems not right.
That’s like SMU going back and asking for forgiveness… they award that to him and Katie bar the door.
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And in many cases room and board.
I got to visit several programs when I flew around a QB recruit 15-20 years ago.

They had very nice "dorms", and all the big programs had several chefs on site 24 hours a day including Christmas.

I remember the guy showing us around saying "If you want a porterhouse on Easter morning at 3am, they will make it".

That was a mid-tier SEC school.....
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NIL and the transfer portal were born from good intentions, but the system in place now is a joke.
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NIL and the transfer portal were born from good intentions, but the system in place now is a joke.
Yes sir. It just makes the rich keep getting richer. For example, you have kids transferring from Texas A&M, to the University of Texas because the University of Texas can pay more. That's something right there because A&M is a big time program with tons of money. But, Texas has more. How are the smaller schools even supposed to compete now?
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Since we are talking NIL, this is a cool page that tracks and ranks "students athlete" valuation.

Sanders gets almost double what #2 gets. Colorado has 1 and 2.

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/pla...lege/football/
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Since we are talking NIL, this is a cool page that tracks and ranks "students athlete" valuation.

Sanders gets almost double what #2 gets. Colorado has 1 and 2.

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/pla...lege/football/
Lost in all this is every player on that list, gets a free ride through college, and an education that can last them a lifetime. That seems to not even count anymore... The ironic thing is, with all that money, they could pay for college themselves.
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Higher education is all but worthless to the players that benefit from NIL the most in the first place. It's an obligation they have to fulfill to keep themselves eligible to play before going pro.
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Higher education is all but worthless to the players that benefit from NIL the most in the first place. It's an obligation they have to fulfill to keep themselves eligible to play before going pro.
True. But even so I find it interesting. Especially when retired pros go back to college, to get their degrees.
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