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Old 10-29-2023, 06:50 PM  
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Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling
I think we can all agree that our offense has been "off" all season, minus the Bears and Chargers games. Mahomes hasn't looked himself by and large, and that could well be because of the talent around him, but watching the plays unfold just makes me wonder why some of the plays are being called in the first place.

Today was an abomination on many fronts with the offense but it sure looked a good deal like an Alex Smith game plan, minus Mahomes' patented making something out of nothing scramble drill passes. The run plays were predictable and getting nothing, but they kept forcing them. We threw the ball laterally as much as horizontally (seemingly), and the plays themselves just look, well, off.

Is it Nagy, is it Mahomes, is it the talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, or is it a combination of all that? Or was this game just an outlier and our annual piss down our legs game as has been suggested, and I'm just OMG-ing for no good reason?

Something FEELS different than in the past so far this season. I would love to put my finger on what it is, precisely.
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Old 10-29-2023, 06:58 PM   #16
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I think we all know andy is largely responsible for EBs success, and if that true he’s also accountable for nagys shortcomings. I still think it’s more a talent issue.
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Old 10-29-2023, 06:59 PM   #17
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Reid is calling the plays or he is talking when the play is being called in
Ok, then let's talking about Andy's ****ing playcalling.

If this was all Andy making the calls, then boy howdy did he have a brain fart today.
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Old 10-29-2023, 07:00 PM   #18
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Said it in another thread. That was one of the worst opening scripts I've ever seen out of the Reid Chiefs. At the very least 3 plays went for significant negative yardage and a whole bunch barely moved the LOS.
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Old 10-29-2023, 07:01 PM   #19
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Andy has seemed more averse than normal than going for it on 4th and short and 4th and 5 this year.

There were two 4th downs I felt he should have gone for today.
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Old 10-29-2023, 07:03 PM   #20
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The Chiefs have run the ball… usually for a minimal gain… on every first play of the game this season.

Start more aggressive.
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Old 10-29-2023, 07:03 PM   #21
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I said this in the game thread, but I think the inside pitch has run its course. The Chargers snuffed it out last week and it took Kelce being a force of nature to hold onto the ball.

I hate it as a third down call near the goal line, especially if Andy is not going to go for it on 4th and short.
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Old 10-29-2023, 07:04 PM   #22
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That's what I was saying - this is as much as Mahomes has looked like Alex Smith yet. The Denver defense is ass, yet our offensive playcalls played right into their strengths. Over and over.
The check downs are because the wrs are complete ass. And Pat is not himself this year and that because the receivers are complete ass.
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I said this in the game thread, but I think the inside pitch has run its course. The Chargers snuffed it out last week and it took Kelce being a force of nature to hold onto the ball.

I hate it as a third down call near the goal line, especially if Andy is not going to go for it on 4th and short.
That decision to punt at their 42 is inexcusable.

Our short yardage plays are trash.
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Whoever is in control of on field personnel needs a foot up their ****ing ass pronto.
Yeah the constant rotation of players has to make play calling harder. Don't know why they just can't pick their best 3 and make it work with them.
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The buck stops with Reid. If you want to criticize the offense then you’re criticizing Reid.
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How many times did we throw it into the end zone? Once? The drop by Moore?
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How many times did we throw it into the end zone? Once? The drop by Moore?
Seems right.
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Look at the pile of crap we’re trotting out at receiver.

Kelce is Kelce

Rice is good, but young and inconsistent.
Watson is decent but JAG
MVS is wildly inconsistent
Toney sucks
Moore sucks
Hardman sucks

So basically we have 2.5 guys that give us anything consistently in the pass catching game.

That just won’t work against NFL defenses.
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Andy has seemed more averse than normal than going for it on 4th and short and 4th and 5 this year.

There were two 4th downs I felt he should have gone for today.
It's going to cost us against the good offense like the Eagles that routinely convert fourth downs (not even talking tush push downs)
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It's going to cost us against the good offense like the Eagles that routinely convert fourth downs (not even talking tush push downs)
And the Eagles lost to the Jets

Chiefs will Chief. You'll see.
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