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**TinyEvel** · Today, 11:14 AM

Patrick Mahomes has a 6-0 record in regular season overtime games.

His only two overtime losses (out of 9) were against the Patriots in the 2019 AFCCG and Bengals in the 2022 AFCCG.

The NFL changed the overtime possession rule because of him. Mahomes then used it to beat the 49ers in the 2024 SuperBowl.

Now the NFL has changed the overtime rule back to "TD on first possession wins the game."

Never give the Chiefs these odds.

I'll say it again: Never go into overtime against the Chiefs.

Bucks should've gone for two.

Going for two is like tying the game, winning the toss, going all the way to the Chiefs' 2 yard line with one more play to punch it in.

That's a great head start against Mahomes and these Chiefs. I'd take those chances any day versus the alternative in overtime, in which one of the following outcomes is likely:

(A) If you lose the toss, Chiefs march down field and score a TD. You lose.

(B) If you win the toss, Spags end-of-game defense shuts you down, chiefs get the ball and see (A) above. You lose.

(C) If you win the toss and score a field goal, Chiefs get a chance to match or beat it and will either score a TD or get to your 45 yard line to let Butker kick it to tie and/or extend the game. You lose or at very best tie.

(D) If you win the toss and don't score, Chiefs only have to get to your 45 yard line to let Butker kick a 62 yard field goal and win the game. You lose.

Never go into overtime against these Chiefs.

This team is so awesome. I think one of the reasons we are undefeated is, while we get every opponent's best effort each week, those teams are also doing things out of character to try to win.

One case is Mahomes scrambling and tossing it to Perine. He's done this twice now. Teams over-pursue to stop his scramble, it opens up the toss. We give teams the yips. They take chances against us. Less than half of them pay off.

Otter · Today, 03:45 PM

If chatgpt is correct our boys are just downright awesome in overtime:

Kansas City Chiefs Overtime Games:

October 6, 1974 – Chiefs 17, Bengals 13
Result: Win
(This was the Chiefs' first-ever overtime game.)
December 7, 1975 – Chiefs 28, Browns 24
Result: Win
December 19, 1976 – Chiefs 20, Dolphins 17
Result: Win
November 30, 1977 – Chiefs 31, Steelers 30
Result: Win
December 16, 1979 – Chiefs 16, Bengals 13
Result: Win
October 16, 1983 – Chiefs 20, Seahawks 17
Result: Win
November 26, 1989 – Chiefs 23, Oilers 20
Result: Win
October 14, 1990 – Chiefs 33, Raiders 27
Result: Win
November 14, 1993 – Chiefs 24, Oilers 17
Result: Win
December 12, 1993 – Chiefs 30, Broncos 27
Result: Win
November 5, 1995 – Chiefs 20, Dolphins 17
Result: Win
December 3, 2000 – Chiefs 13, Jaguars 10
Result: Win
December 16, 2001 – Chiefs 40, Raiders 39
Result: Win
December 2, 2007 – Chiefs 20, Chargers 17
Result: Win
September 14, 2008 – Chiefs 10, Raiders 6
Result: Win
October 16, 2016 – Chiefs 43, Saints 40
Result: Win
December 10, 2017 – Chiefs 30, Chargers 27
Result: Win
December 23, 2018 – Chiefs 29, Seahawks 24
Result: Win
January 12, 2020 (AFC Divisional Playoffs) – Chiefs 51, Texans 31
Result: Win
January 19, 2020 (AFC Championship Game) – Chiefs 35, Titans 24
Result: Win
January 24, 2021 (Super Bowl LV) – Chiefs 31, 49ers 20
Result: Win (Note: Super Bowl not technically overtime, but relevant to Chiefs postseason run.)
October 6, 2021 (Monday Night Football) – Chiefs 37, Buffalo Bills 30 (OT)
Result: Win
January 23, 2022 (AFC Divisional Playoffs) – Chiefs 42, Bills 36 (OT)
Result: Win
(One of the most famous overtime games, known for Patrick Mahomes’ clutch plays.)
January 30, 2022 (AFC Championship Game) – Chiefs 38, Bengals 35 (OT)
Result: Win
January 29, 2023 (AFC Championship Game) – Chiefs 23, Bengals 20 (OT)
Result: Win
October 12, 2023 – Chiefs 19, Broncos 13 (OT)
Result: Win

smithandrew051 · Today, 03:49 PM

lol not quite accurate

Chargem · Today, 04:21 PM

The permutations on this are interesting to think about.

2 point plays are about a 50% success rate.

But:

You don't win with a 2 point conversion, the Chiefs would have the 40 seconds and 2-3 time outs to go ~35 yards to try a field goal to win.

You don't lose with a failed 2 point conversion. The onside kick recovery rate is somewhere around 4%? recovering an onside kick is practically in field goal range.

Similar for just tying the game, you both risk that the Chiefs could win the game in regulation and also risk losing the game in OT without a chance to possess.

I still would have just gone for 2, but the exact situation here is interesting

**Rain Man** · Today, 04:35 PM

The only way to win a game against the Chiefs is to not play a game against the Chiefs.

Otter · Today, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

lol not quite accurate

Exactly why not to trust AI.

displacedinMN · Today, 04:51 PM

That OT drive was a heads down, dont **** around, we are going to win this no matter what,and end it kind of drive.

**TinyEvel** · Today, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

That OT drive was a heads down, dont **** around, we are going to win this no matter what,and end it kind of drive.

Yeah but I'm sure they were in that mode when they got the ball up by 7 with three minutes to go. All they had to do was get a first down.

**Rain Man** · Today, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel

Yeah but I'm sure they were in that mode when they got the ball up by 7 with three minutes to go. All they had to do was get a first down.

I didn't understand that two-minute strategy at all. I guess they thought they could get a first down with that plan? Because I was watching it happen and thinking, "Hey, Andy. You have to get a first down to end this game, and it looks like you're tanking the drive." They killed, what, 20 seconds on that drive? I was pretty frustrated watching it.

**Indian Chief** · Today, 05:15 PM

1. Land war in Asia
2. Against a Sicilian when death is on the line
3. Overtime against the Chiefs

Otter · Today, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Chief

1. Land war in Asia
2. Against a Sicilian when death is on the line
3. Overtime against the Chiefs

War in Russia in December.

**Bowser** · Today, 07:40 PM

Mayfield's reaction at losing the coin toss in OT was perfect

He knew what was about to happen, lol.

**Bearcat** · Today, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat

One really strange stat from last night, unless I heard incorrectly... they said Mahomes had never thrown a 4th quarter touchdown in a tied game until last night?

I'm sure that sample size is relatively small and then you have all the times they're tied and just kick a FG, but still.

Here's every possession of Mahomes' career when the game is tied in the 4th quarter and the Chiefs had at least one possession.

Chargers show up 3 times, Bengals & Bills twice.

2018:
Ravens, tied at 17, punted twice. Tied at 24, missed FG

2019:
Never tied in the 4th quarter of a game.

2020:
Falcons: Tied at 7 entering the 4th, kicked a FG to break the tie.

2021:
Chargers: Tied at 24, Mahomes interception.

Giants: Tied at 17, kicked a FG

Bengals: Tied at 21, punted twice

2022:
Chargers: Tied the game at 17 in the 4th, then a pick 6 to take the lead (hey, a touchdown of some sort!

)

Bills: Tied at 17, kicked a FG

Titans: Tied at 17, kicked a FG

Texans: Tied at 24, missed FG

Bengals: Tied at 20, punt and made a FG

Eagles: Tied at 35, kicked a FG

2023:
Jets: Tied at 20, made a FG

Bills: Tied at 17, punt

2024:
Chargers: Tied at 10, punt and a 2 yard Perine TD

Bucs, Tied at 17, P.Mahomes pass short left to D.Hopkins for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN

Today, 11:14 AM
TinyEvel Just a li'l Evel Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bald. Goatee. Jorts. Casino cash: $3749601	Never Tie a Game With the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes has a 6-0 record in regular season overtime games. His only two overtime losses (out of 9) were against the Patriots in the 2019 AFCCG and Bengals in the 2022 AFCCG. The NFL changed the overtime possession rule because of him. Mahomes then used it to beat the 49ers in the 2024 SuperBowl. Now the NFL has changed the overtime rule back to "TD on first possession wins the game." Never give the Chiefs these odds. I'll say it again: Never go into overtime against the Chiefs. Bucks should've gone for two. Going for two is like tying the game, winning the toss, going all the way to the Chiefs' 2 yard line with one more play to punch it in. That's a great head start against Mahomes and these Chiefs. I'd take those chances any day versus the alternative in overtime, in which one of the following outcomes is likely: (A) If you lose the toss, Chiefs march down field and score a TD. You lose. (B) If you win the toss, Spags end-of-game defense shuts you down, chiefs get the ball and see (A) above. You lose. (C) If you win the toss and score a field goal, Chiefs get a chance to match or beat it and will either score a TD or get to your 45 yard line to let Butker kick it to tie and/or extend the game. You lose or at very best tie. (D) If you win the toss and don't score, Chiefs only have to get to your 45 yard line to let Butker kick a 62 yard field goal and win the game. You lose. Never go into overtime against these Chiefs. This team is so awesome. I think one of the reasons we are undefeated is, while we get every opponent's best effort each week, those teams are also doing things out of character to try to win. One case is Mahomes scrambling and tossing it to Perine. He's done this twice now. Teams over-pursue to stop his scramble, it opens up the toss. We give teams the yips. They take chances against us. Less than half of them pay off.
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Chargem Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $2450400	The permutations on this are interesting to think about. 2 point plays are about a 50% success rate. But: You don't win with a 2 point conversion, the Chiefs would have the 40 seconds and 2-3 time outs to go ~35 yards to try a field goal to win. You don't lose with a failed 2 point conversion. The onside kick recovery rate is somewhere around 4%? recovering an onside kick is practically in field goal range. Similar for just tying the game, you both risk that the Chiefs could win the game in regulation and also risk losing the game in OT without a chance to possess. I still would have just gone for 2, but the exact situation here is interesting
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displacedinMN It was not a fair catch Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Correcting papers Casino cash: $1022630	That OT drive was a heads down, dont **** around, we are going to win this no matter what,and end it kind of drive. __________________ #investigatecarlcheffers
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