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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Old 12-07-2020, 02:58 PM   #29656
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Also Brady's style of play allowed him to be consistently good for a long period of time. As good as Mahomes is I think as he gets older he is going to have to change his game to be more of a pocket passer. So we will have to wait and see if Mahomes has Brady's longevity.

Brady also never played w amount of weapons we currently have. I guess closest was when he had Moss/Welker and he tore it up..

I'm not ready to crown Mahomes as GOAT yet way too early! Great start though!
He plays the game like Rodgers, who is 37 years old with a long injury history and currently playing at MVP level. Brett Favre played at a high level beyond age 35 as well. Same goes for John Elway. None of those 3 guys fit the Brady mold you are describing.

If we're talking about things that guys have or don't have, Mahomes has never had a defense like what Belichick supplied to Brady for the vast majority of their 20 years together. If Patrick figures out a way to pull a Montana run of 4 rings in less than 10 years, he has an argument to be in the GOAT conversation at that point.
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Old 12-07-2020, 03:19 PM   #29657
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Regarding the MVP:

Seen a lot of takes come in this morning about Rodgers being the MVP. Whatever.

Between long plays being called back, conservative situational playcalling, and a certain lack of a challenge last night, he might get hosed in the statistical race.

However, anyone who doesn't think he's the best player in football by a WIDE MARGIN simply isn't paying attention. Two years ago, it was Brady and Brees, last year it was Lamar, the first half of this season it was Russ, now it's Rodgers.

There's always someone the media says is better than Mahomes. However, the one constant in the bullshit comparisons IS MAHOMES. The others come and go, but he's always there.

Do you see Mahomes scoring 12 points at home and losing to a 4-7 team like Russ did? No.

Do you see Mahomes EVER getting beat 38-10 like Rodgers did? No.

Mahomes has no peer, he has no bad games, he has no letdowns. He is inevitable. The best player in football, the MVP, end of story, shut it down, no discussion.

You can give the award to someone else, but Patrick Mahomes is on a level all his own in this league. Anyone saying otherwise is just trying to stir up hot takes or doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.
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Regarding the MVP:

Seen a lot of takes come in this morning about Rodgers being the MVP. Whatever.

Between long plays being called back, conservative situational playcalling, and a certain lack of a challenge last night, he might get hosed in the statistical race.

However, anyone who doesn't think he's the best player in football by a WIDE MARGIN simply isn't paying attention. Two years ago, it was Brady and Brees, last year it was Lamar, the first half of this season it was Russ, now it's Rodgers.

There's always someone the media says is better than Mahomes. However, the one constant in the bullshit comparisons IS MAHOMES. The others come and go, but he's always there.

Do you see Mahomes scoring 12 points at home and losing to a 4-7 team like Russ did? No.

Do you see Mahomes EVER getting beat 38-10 like Rodgers did? No.

Mahomes has no peer, he has no bad games, he has no letdowns. He is inevitable. The best player in football, the MVP, end of story, shut it down, no discussion.

You can give the award to someone else, but Patrick Mahomes is on a level all his own in this league. Anyone saying otherwise is just trying to stir up hot takes or doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.
Here's a stat to keep an eye on. The record is 2007 Brady at 96 PAA. Mahomes is already at 77 PAA, not much different than Rodgers' 2011 season of 78 PAA. Mahomes is currently on pace to finish with 103 PAA. Rodgers is currently at 57 PAA and on pace to finish with 78 PAA, equal to his 2011 season but still way behind Brady in 2007 or Mahomes 2020. Would be pretty wild if Mahomes breaks a record that was firmly in Brady's name for all these years and ends up losing MVP.

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All-Time: https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/view/...qbpaa/dir/desc
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How many Rodgers TD's have been called back on phantom holds this year?

Rodgers gets the Brady treatment as far as the refs letting his Oline hold every play. So does Big Ben. Not Mahomes though- Denver went for his knees yesterday and no flag.

Mahomes still has more yards and more wins with a harder schedule. MVP
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Mahomes continues to move up the All-Time yardage list. He passed Chad Henne and Mariota.

Next up- Watson and Eddie LeBaron (known for his nice cars)

163 Eddie LeBaron 13,399 1952-1963
164 Deshaun Watson 13,258 2017-2020

165 Patrick Mahomes 13,227 2017-2020

166 Marcus Mariota 13,207 2015-2019
167 Chad Henne 12,990 2008-2020
168 Bill Munson 12,896 1964-1979
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Except for Bayless. He's a huge troll but he knows what he's talking about when he's expressing his actual opinions. His worry about BOB came to fruition and he already knew Mahomes was special.
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