Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 195

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

WhawhaWhat · 04-12-2013, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

I almost forgot about this – did anyone hear Frank White on 810 yesterday (around 5pm)?

Early in the interview, he says Gordon needs to be moved away from batting leadoff.

Later, answering a question that had nothing to do with the lineup, he says:
- Move Gordon down to the 4 spot
- Switch Escobar and Getz (Escobar to 8, Getz to 2)
- “Let Butler, Gordon, and Frenchy drive the lineup”

Frank’s priorities seem to be off – his lineup choice is based on nothing but years of experience.

Getz for Escobar? Franceour driving the lineup?!? He deserves to be hired and re-fired for that.

-King- · 04-12-2013, 04:12 PM

I'm going back and forth on whether to go to the game or not.

....or should I just go tomorrow to see Shields..

WhitiE · 04-12-2013, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King-

I'm going back and forth on whether to go to the game or not.

....or should I just go tomorrow to see Shields..

Shields

Mr. Laz · 04-12-2013, 05:39 PM

The Royals have outscored their opponents 43-28 this year. In their history that run differential of +15 has only been topped three other times after nine games and it marks the ninth time they have been +10 or better. The other eight times? Yeah, they did pretty well. Three playoff appearances and zero seasons below .500.

http://kingsofkauffman.com/2013/04/1...after-9-games/

SnakeXJones · 04-12-2013, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

I almost forgot about this – did anyone hear Frank White on 810 yesterday (around 5pm)?

Early in the interview, he says Gordon needs to be moved away from batting leadoff.

Later, answering a question that had nothing to do with the lineup, he says:
- Move Gordon down to the 4 spot
- Switch Escobar and Getz (Escobar to 8, Getz to 2)
- “Let Butler, Gordon, and Frenchy drive the lineup”

Frank’s priorities seem to be off – his lineup choice is based on nothing but years of experience.

WOW Frank Wow

Hootie · 04-12-2013, 05:41 PM

if Hosmer can't hit lefties, sit his ass on the bench. I'm tired of watching him fall 0-2 in every count.

Hootie · 04-12-2013, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnakeXJones

WOW Frank Wow

he's right about Gordon

I don't ****ing care what anyone says GORDON IS A 3 HITTER...just because he's good in the leadup spots doesn't mean keep him there...

the dude hit 51 doubles

Ricky Henderson's best doubles year ever was 33 (he also hit a career best 28 bombs that year)...

YOU DON'T HIT A GUY THAT HITS 51 DOUBLES AT LEADOFF

AussieChiefsFan · 04-13-2013, 02:58 AM

For anyone that can't watch on TV, Royals vs Braves on April 16th will be free online (in full HD) on MLB.TV

http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/?&aff...date=4/16/2013

CaliforniaChief · 04-13-2013, 03:25 PM

Crasnick did a lengthy writeup on the Royals and in particular, the haul for Zack Greinke.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/91...l-zack-greinke

Sure-Oz · 04-13-2013, 03:28 PM

Hosmer day-to-day with sore right quadriceps

Eric Hosmer is nursing a sore right quadriceps.
Hosmer did not play Friday and is not in action Saturday. The Royals are hoping he'll feel well enough on Sunday.
Source: Bob Dutton on Twitter
Apr 13 - 4:18 PM

This explains why he didn't play and isnt playing

Sure-Oz · 04-13-2013, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

he's right about Gordon

I don't ****ing care what anyone says GORDON IS A 3 HITTER...just because he's good in the leadup spots doesn't mean keep him there...

the dude hit 51 doubles

Ricky Henderson's best doubles year ever was 33 (he also hit a career best 28 bombs that year)...

YOU DON'T HIT A GUY THAT HITS 51 DOUBLES AT LEADOFF

Royals don't have a leadoff hitter except Gordon, who gets on base better than anyone in the lineup besides Butler

teedubya · 04-13-2013, 03:35 PM

Hosmer isn't playing again today. Is he hurt?

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Royals don't have a leadoff hitter except Gordon, who gets on base better than anyone in the lineup besides Butler

Lorenzo Cain and Alcides Escobar would both be above average leadoff hitters compared to other leadoff hitters in MLB.

If your opinion that 120 years of baseball history of putting your best OPS hitters at 3 and 4 is wrong and defies the math, then I have no argument...we just have different opinions.

But if you're like every big league manager over the past SEVERAL decades...

there is no reason are lineup shouldn't be

Cain
Hosmer
Gordon
Butler

or

Escobar
Cain
Gordon
Butler

over

Gordon
Escobar
Butler
Moustakas

Three7s · 04-13-2013, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

Lorenzo Cain and Alcides Escobar would both be above average leadoff hitters compared to other leadoff hitters in MLB.

If your opinion that 120 years of baseball history of putting your best OPS hitters at 3 and 4 is wrong and defies the math, then I have no argument...we just have different opinions.

But if you're like every big league manager over the past SEVERAL decades...

there is no reason are lineup shouldn't be

Cain
Hosmer
Gordon
Butler

or

Escobar
Cain
Gordon
Butler

over

Gordon
Escobar
Butler
Moustakas

You're still going on about this? I thought this was burned to death in the last GDT.....

silver5liter · 04-13-2013, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya

Hosmer isn't playing again today. Is he hurt?

This was posted about 2 posts before yours

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