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Dante84 · 09:40 AM

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TomBarndtsTwin · 11-12-2020, 01:10 AM

Do they account for dropped TD passes in the numbers as well? Because Mahomes has quite a few of those.

What about ‘free plays’? (Defense offsides so Mahomes throws it up for grabs just because)

Who actually decides what a TWP is? Ultimately, the grader. So it becomes a subjective stat with each grader having their own (intentional or not) inherent biases.

You can calculate actual INT’s. Why? Because they actually happened. You can’t make an objective accurate assessment for TWP’s because they didn’t actually produce a turnover and no one for sure can say what would have happened because of A, B, C, etc.

It’s a ridiculous stat to try and quantify when there’s no actual way to objectively measure it.

And THAT is why it is a stupid take from Sam and why many can’t take PFF seriously.

Nickhead · 11-12-2020, 03:23 AM

i've probably drunk posted this link before, like i am now, but **** me!!!

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**RealSNR** · 11-12-2020, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Yes, Patrick Mahomes has 25 TDs 1 INT.

But the 1 INT isn't a fair reflection of his turnover-worthy plays.

He's behind only Carson Wentz (7)+Fitzmagic (6) in dropped INTs by the defense this szn.

I'm not saying he sucks, he's still incredible, but the 1 INT stat is a mirage
— Sam Monson (@PFF_Sam) November 11, 2020

They've been saying this shit Pat's entire ****ing career.

When are those turnover-worthy plays going to regress to the mean, assholes? You're saying Pat's just been lucky for 3 whole ****ing seasons? It couldn't possibly be that most of those throws, while they might be (let's just say) invitations for turnovers, aren't actually turnovers because of the way he throws it? Or where he throws it? There's no credit whatsoever to be given to the QB for those throws not being picked? It's just luck that they aren't?

****. You. Seriously. Get ****ed and die, PFF.

Dayze · 11-12-2020, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic

He sounds like Skip Bayless. If you take away all the touchdowns, he's just a below average QB. That's Skip Bayless logic.

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exactly.

or, Dick Vermeil defending Greg Robinson
"Other than the 3 60+ yard runs, and 15 play TD Drives, the Defense played pretty well"

Sannyasi · 11-12-2020, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

He did win an MVP once, he doesn't suck but his numbers are going to make him look like he was an elite player for a decade.

Did you see last week Flacco passed Montana on the all time yards list? Stats are stupidly inflated in this era.

ChiefsFanatic · 11-12-2020, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze

exactly.

or, Dick Vermeil defending Greg Robinson

"Other than the 3 60+ yard runs, and 15 play TD Drives, the Defense played pretty well"

I liked DV, except for his ridiculous blind loyalty, and his refusal to tell the truth about the way the defense played.

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Hammock Parties · 11-12-2020, 10:10 AM

drop 8 get ****ed anyway

Most 20+ yard completions:
1. Patrick Mahomes - 38
2. Josh Allen - 37
3. Matt Ryan - 36
T-4. Deshaun Watson/ Tom Brady - 32 pic.twitter.com/L2orfc21ro
— PFF (@PFF) November 12, 2020

Hammock Parties · 11-12-2020, 10:15 AM

Mahomes has been blitzed 68 times this year.

He has 11 TDs and 2 sacks.

When you blitz Mahomes he has a 16% chance to throw a TD.

On his 261 other throws, 14 TDs.

A 5.3% chance.

WHEN YOU BLITZ MAHOMES HE TRIPLES HIS TOUCHDOWN CHANCE.

Megatron96 · 11-12-2020, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

The ol' hidden INT's!

It's weird that this guy would feel compelled to post this. Why single out Mahomes, and over an imaginary stat?

Seriously, every QB throws passes that might've been picked off. So what? It's almost as if this guy has a bone to pick.

Did Patrick hurt this guy's feelings somehow?

It's about the only thing I can think of as a reason for him to post this fabricated stat.

CasselGotPeedOn · 11-12-2020, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Mahomes has been blitzed 68 times this year.

He has 11 TDs and 2 sacks.

When you blitz Mahomes he has a 16% chance to throw a TD.

On his 261 other throws, 14 TDs.

A 5.3% chance.

WHEN YOU BLITZ MAHOMES HE TRIPLES HIS TOUCHDOWN CHANCE.

There's a reason he's one of the least blitzed Qb's in the league.

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-13-2020, 07:27 AM

mr. tegu · 11-13-2020, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96

It's weird that this guy would feel compelled to post this. Why single out Mahomes, and over an imaginary stat?

Seriously, every QB throws passes that might've been picked off. So what? It's almost as if this guy has a bone to pick.

Did Patrick hurt this guy's feelings somehow?

It's about the only thing I can think of as a reason for him to post this fabricated stat.

It’s probably because they have ranked Brady ahead of Mahomes as playing better this season so he has to tweet this out to defend their reasoning.

ChiefRocka · 11-13-2020, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead

i've probably drunk posted this link before, like i am now, but **** me!!!

this is a video with emotion

21:07 mark. That's me wearing #15 on the right. Nuts tucked heavily in my stomach

pugsnotdrugs19 · 11-13-2020, 11:03 AM

I’m usually pretty conservative about the conversation of championships because I think in the NFL, it is so damn hard to win the big one. So much has to go right, you’re always a play away from the season being set on fire.

But the more I’ve watched this year and thought about what the Chiefs have in place, I wholeheartedly believe that anything less than 3 Super Bowls for Mahomes is going to be a big let down. I expect 4, really. Assuming he has a nice long career.

I just don’t know that I’ve ever seen a guy who is harder to beat. You think about the games we have lost with him, and every single one took so much going right for the other team in order to happen. If he’s healthy, it takes winning a shootout and that is hard as **** to do against Patrick.

Reid is the foundation of everything and Veach is the cherry on top. With those 3 hopefully together for the next 5-10 years, the best is to come.

Megatron96 · 11-13-2020, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

It’s probably because they have ranked Brady ahead of Mahomes as playing better this season so he has to tweet this out to defend their reasoning.

Did they see the Bucs/Saints game?

Of course, that's rhetorical, but seriously . . .

I mean, ultimately I get what they're trying to do. They're trying to quantify potential for statistical interpretation. But I don't think their model, whatever it is, works that well if they have Brady rated above Mahomes this season. Or any season from 2018 forward. It erodes their this guy's credibility, if he has any.

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TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $3789883	Do they account for dropped TD passes in the numbers as well? Because Mahomes has quite a few of those. What about ‘free plays’? (Defense offsides so Mahomes throws it up for grabs just because) Who actually decides what a TWP is? Ultimately, the grader. So it becomes a subjective stat with each grader having their own (intentional or not) inherent biases. You can calculate actual INT’s. Why? Because they actually happened. You can’t make an objective accurate assessment for TWP’s because they didn’t actually produce a turnover and no one for sure can say what would have happened because of A, B, C, etc. It’s a ridiculous stat to try and quantify when there’s no actual way to objectively measure it. And THAT is why it is a stupid take from Sam and why many can’t take PFF seriously.
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $2670478	Mahomes has been blitzed 68 times this year. He has 11 TDs and 2 sacks. When you blitz Mahomes he has a 16% chance to throw a TD. On his 261 other throws, 14 TDs. A 5.3% chance. WHEN YOU BLITZ MAHOMES HE TRIPLES HIS TOUCHDOWN CHANCE. __________________ Chiefs game films
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $8199447	I’m usually pretty conservative about the conversation of championships because I think in the NFL, it is so damn hard to win the big one. So much has to go right, you’re always a play away from the season being set on fire. But the more I’ve watched this year and thought about what the Chiefs have in place, I wholeheartedly believe that anything less than 3 Super Bowls for Mahomes is going to be a big let down. I expect 4, really. Assuming he has a nice long career. I just don’t know that I’ve ever seen a guy who is harder to beat. You think about the games we have lost with him, and every single one took so much going right for the other team in order to happen. If he’s healthy, it takes winning a shootout and that is hard as **** to do against Patrick. Reid is the foundation of everything and Veach is the cherry on top. With those 3 hopefully together for the next 5-10 years, the best is to come.
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