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Old 03-23-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Chiefs trade Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins
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Old 05-30-2024, 12:45 PM   #2881
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I predict some shit team like the Panthers going all in to try to salvage the Bryce Young pick.
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Old 05-30-2024, 12:46 PM   #2882
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Just take a WR in one of the first two rounds every year. **** it.


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Old 05-30-2024, 12:48 PM   #2883
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Just take a WR in one of the first two rounds every year. **** it.
Yup.

These guys are playing full 7v7 seasons when they're 11 or 12 years old, they're running complicated passing offenses in College.

They're as easy to evaluate and identify as they've ever been. Their learning curves are as flat as they've ever been.

And we have the baddest MFer on earth under center.

Churn and burn. Create a WR ladder of sorts where you're never truly dependent on a rookie, but constantly losing a guy after year 4 and a guy in year 2 steps up (with a new 1st/2nd round rookie creating the next ladder rung). When something like Skyy happens (and it will) then you dip into the FA marketplace for a value FA as a band-aid.

But unless/until I see a team pay these WRs real money and actually DO something with one, it just doesn't seem to make sense to me. This isn't the path to championships.
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Old 05-30-2024, 12:48 PM   #2884
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I predict some shit team like the Panthers going all in to try to salvage the Bryce Young pick.
They really need to do something splashy. A guy like Hill or J Jefferson would transform their offense and possibly salvage that pick.
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Old 05-30-2024, 12:56 PM   #2886
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They really need to do something splashy. A guy like Hill or J Jefferson would transform their offense and possibly salvage that pick.


There is no salvaging that pick. There's only making it worse.
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There is no salvaging that pick. There's only making it worse.
It’s not looking good at this point, I agree. And something splashy has huge potential to backfire and make it worse.

But, man, idk. Idk what you do if you’re the Panthers..
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Old 05-30-2024, 12:58 PM   #2888
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It’s not looking good at this point, I agree. And something splashy has huge potential to backfire and make it worse.

But, man, idk. Idk what you do if you’re the Panthers..
You play out the season and when you eventually end up with the #1 overall pick, you either take another QB, or accept that the QB class is shit and try to get a big haul (like the Bears did to the Panthers).

They'd surely have to trade their 1st next year for Hill or JJ, so you could be looking at another disaster where they traded the #1 overall pick AGAIN.
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Probably micro manage your team and lash out at anyone who tests you?

Well, that's what Tepper is doing about it anyway
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You play out the season and when you eventually end up with the #1 overall pick, you either take another QB, or accept that the QB class is shit and try to get a big haul (like the Bears did to the Panthers).

They'd surely have to trade their 1st next year for Hill or JJ, so you could be looking at another disaster where they traded the #1 overall pick AGAIN.
We did it for a late 1st when Hill was 28. I bet they could pull it off without sacrificing their 1, especially if it came after this next season when Hill would be 31.

I’m not sure it’d be the best option but ****, man. They haven’t won the division, which is terrible, or a playoff game since 2015. They haven’t had a winning season since 2017. Ever since Cam left it’s been a carousel of garbage QB after garbage QB. They just traded away their only blue chipper in Brian Burns. The cupboards are bare and the outlook isn’t great. I have to wonder at what point the fandom starts showing up wearing paper bags and flying banners.

Trading for a guy like Hill would ignite the fanbase’s hope again and put butts in the seats.
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We did it for a late 1st when Hill was 28. I bet they could pull it off without sacrificing their 1, especially if it came after this next season when Hill would be 31.

I’m not sure it’d be the best option but ****, man. They haven’t won the division, which is terrible, or a playoff game since 2015. They haven’t had a winning season since 2017. Ever since Cam left it’s been a carousel of garbage QB after garbage QB. They just traded away their only blue chipper in Brian Burns. The cupboards are bare and the outlook isn’t great. I have to wonder at what point the fandom starts showing up wearing paper bags and flying banners.

Trading for a guy like Hill would ignite the fanbase’s hope again and put butts in the seats.
You're assuming the Dolphins are in the same position the Chiefs were. The Dolphins, who are in win now mode, only hope is that their WRs can overcome their QB. They aren't trading Hill for anything less than a 1st next year.

The best thing the Panthers can do is what they have done. They got Young some help with Diontae Johnson, Xavier Legette, and Jonathan Brooks, now they need him to sink or swim. Investing future draft picks in a 30 year old WR when they don't know if their QB is the answer is a terrible idea. They can't afford that after trading up for Young.

If Young fails, it is very likely they will be the worst team in the NFL again, and that draft pick is exactly how they would fix their mistake.
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As for doing it next year, they're going to be so bad this year that I think it's moot. They will likely have a new QB next year anyways.
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Has anyone figured out WHY they took Young over Stroud? It's not as stupid as Trubiski over Mahomes, but it's up there.
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The owner literally overruled his coach and GM. His hubris is amazing. He said something like he felt good about how he like how Bryce Young interacted at meet and greets. lol it's just astounding.
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You're assuming the Dolphins are in the same position the Chiefs were. The Dolphins, who are in win now mode, only hope is that their WRs can overcome their QB. They aren't trading Hill for anything less than a 1st next year.
Everyone, including Tyreek, knows he ain’t playing in Miami on this contract after this upcoming season. His stint in town has a very clear expiration date, which would help the Panthers, I’d think.

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The best thing the Panthers can do is what they have done. They got Young some help with Diontae Johnson, Xavier Legette, and Jonathan Brooks, now they need him to sink or swim. Investing future draft picks in a 30 year old WR when they don't know if their QB is the answer is a terrible idea. They can't afford that after trading up for Young..
I agree with the bolded. I think after trading so many picks for Young you’ve gotta slow play this, but isn’t the non-bolded what you do to figure out if the QB is the answer or not? Ideally you’d surround the QB with weapons to being with, but they obviously failed there massively so now you try to remedy that while he’s still young and salvageable.

He’s only one year into his career. No one knows if he’ll pan out or not, and that includes guys in the building.
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