*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Pretty good analysis by Simms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jHh...nnel=NBCSports

Didn't the Jags play the Seattle scheme? And yet Pat diced them up twice. We also put 30 points on the Chargers at home last season which he never mentioned. The scheme may be a challenge for our offense but the fact is we continue to win against it despite a few struggles early.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

The notion that the Ravens have a soft schedule is a total myth imo.

Chiefs
Eagles
Steelers twice
Cowboys
Titans
Pats
Colts
Browns on the road

Plus trap games against that Washington d-line, two games against Burrow and a Minshew inspired Jags...anyone who calls that schedule "very soft" clearly doesn't have a clue about how dangerous many of those teams are imo.

You really think the Eagles, Colts, Cowboys, Browns & Titans are difficult games?

I'll give you the Chiefs, Steelers, Pats but the rest? Nah

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

The notion that the Ravens have a soft schedule is a total myth imo.

Chiefs
Eagles
Steelers twice
Cowboys
Titans
Pats
Colts
Browns on the road

Plus trap games against that Washington d-line, two games against Burrow and a Minshew inspired Jags...anyone who calls that schedule "very soft" clearly doesn't have a clue about how dangerous many of those teams are imo.

Baltimore has the weakest schedule in the league when you look at win percentages from last year.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

You really think the Eagles, Colts, Cowboys, Browns & Titans are difficult games?

I'll give you the Chiefs, Steelers, Pats but the rest? Nah

Lol so the team who kicked their ass in their own building in the playoffs isn't tough? And say what you like about the boys and colts, but those are two decent rosters with playmakers on both sides of the ball. So again...their schedule is not "soft" at aĺl.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Baltimore has the weakest schedule in the league when you look at win percentages from last year.

But we're not talking about "last year"...we're talking about THIS year..and anyone thinking logically would know that that schedule is far from soft.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Didn't the Jags play the Seattle scheme? And yet Pat diced them up twice. We also put 30 points on the Chargers at home last season which he never mentioned. The scheme may be a challenge for our offense but the fact is we continue to win against it despite a few struggles early.

Half the league runs the Seattle scheme, it isn't so much that scheme it's that the 49ers and Chargers have a ton of money and high picks invested in the DL which is the one thing that gives the offense problems.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Half the league runs the Seattle scheme, it isn't so much that scheme it's that the 49ers and Chargers have a ton of money and high picks invested in the DL which is the one thing that gives the offense problems.

Yep. The key is to get pressure with 4 and play coverage on the back end. If you don't have the horses up front, the effectiveness can fall way off.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. The key is to get pressure with 4 and play coverage on the back end. If you don't have the horses up front, the effectiveness can fall way off.

I cannot overstate how badly losing Derwin James crippled those guys.

Do the Chiefs put 10 on the board if he's there yesterday? They damn sure don't hit that bomb to Hill and there's an even chance that the blown coverage on Kelce on the corner TD doesn't happen either (though that ball placement was so good it may have been uncoverable either way).

Derwin James just does so much for them. He's peak Berry and maybe better.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I cannot overstate how badly losing Derwin James crippled those guys.

Do the Chiefs put 10 on the board if he's there yesterday? They damn sure don't hit that bomb to Hill and there's an even chance that the blown coverage on Kelce on the corner TD doesn't happen either (though that ball placement was so good it may have been uncoverable either way).

Derwin James just does so much for them. He's peak Berry and maybe better.

...with a healthy Derwin James there’s a good chance a few of our members are in meltdown mode.

I think the touchdown to Reek could have still happened, but James likely blankets Kelce the entire game.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Baltimore has the weakest schedule in the league when you look at win percentages from last year.

Here’s a few teams that look worse than last year so far:

Patriots
Jets
Texans
Broncos
Eagles
Vikings
Saints
49ers

Here’s a few teams that look better:

Steelers
Raiders
Chargers
Buccaneers
Cardinals

Point being, last years win percentage is very misleading. Remember when the 2018 Chiefs stomped the Jags? The Jags were in the AFCCG in the previous season. They finished 2018 5-11.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I cannot overstate how badly losing Derwin James crippled those guys.

Do the Chiefs put 10 on the board if he's there yesterday? They damn sure don't hit that bomb to Hill and there's an even chance that the blown coverage on Kelce on the corner TD doesn't happen either (though that ball placement was so good it may have been uncoverable either way).

Derwin James just does so much for them. He's peak Berry and maybe better.

Shouldn’t you also consider that our defense would’ve been better with Saunders, Pennel, Breeland, Ward...?

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

...with a healthy Derwin James there’s a good chance a few of our members are in meltdown mode.

I think the touchdown to Reek could have still happened, but James likely blankets Kelce the entire game.

On the other hand, if we had Ward, Breeland, Clark, and Pennel, would the game have even gone to OT?

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Best22

On the other hand, if we had Ward, Breeland, Clark, and Pennel, would the game have even gone to OT?

That would have been a fun matchup. Guessing we may have seen the first Chiefs win in the teens in the Mahomes era (like, 17-14 or something close to that).

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by Best22

On the other hand, if we had Ward, Breeland, Clark, and Pennel, would the game have even gone to OT?

Yea I’d say us missing our two best corners cancels out the Chargers missing James

I mean we have a second year 6th round pick And the rookie fourth round pick out there playing every snap basically

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire

Yea I’d say us missing our two best corners cancels out the Chargers missing James

I mean we have a second year 6th round pick And the rookie fourth round pick out there playing every snap basically

This.

I'm not feeling a bit sorry for the Chargers in that game.

We have our own injury (and suspension) issues.


James IS very important for them, but I don't know that I'm trading out him for Breeland, Ward, Pennell, Saunders and Okafor. Give us those 5 back and the Chargers James and I don't think that game goes to OT. I don't think Herbert and the Chargers score PERIOD on that defense. Certainly not more than 10 points. Their offense is putrid and they had a rookie QB thrown into the mix last minute (supposedly), but if we have those 5 out there as well, then I believe it's a long ass day for the rook. Especially throwing the ball.