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Old 01-20-2025, 01:22 PM  
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RB has an argument for being our biggest team need
Man it’s bad. Like really bad. Really really really bad.

The Chiefs have the least explosive RB room in the NFL. Only 17 explosive plays from RB’s. Pacheco is the most explosive guy, and he’s been a good soldier here, but he’s not the guy. Excellent change of pace back, but his vision is bad and his lateral agility isn’t good either.

I love Kareem but he’s winding down. He’s 30 next year and you could see the wheels start to come off with usage.

I think we should consider a RB rd 1 if the board gets dicey, but ideally we sign someone like Ty Johnson from Buffalo. Also to preface this I think LT is numero uno for us and this is a scenario where one is just not attainable.

Everyone gets so mad at this offense and blames coaching but the pieces have just not been there. The truth is this team badly misses Jerrick McKinnon. They’ve gotten some of that from Perine but it’s just not enough.

We got 1 TD from a RB in the passing game this year. Compare that to:

2023: 7
2022: 12
2021: 5

Major major drop in production there that has killed the offense. I see these playoff teams with quality backs and it’s helped them tremendously.

Getting an explosive, dynamic playmaking RB has to be a major priority. It could change the entire offense and help soften the blow of losing Kelce (eventually) and working on LT
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Old 03-27-2025, 08:01 AM   #271
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What do you guys want for a RB? I feel like there isn't some major consensus, and there's so much to like in this class that it also leads to a large variance.

Coming into this I thought most people wanted an electric playmaker to compliment Pacheco. There are not too many of those. Hendrickson, Sampson, Tuten, Harvey, and Blue probably top out the list.

But I really see a lot of people liking some other backs that are more of your two-down thumper and some that are a bit more complete but are going to lack that homerun threat primarily. There are a lot of those 2-down guys and frankly, taking these guys I'd just as much rather take a guy in round 7 than take one in round 2.

I see very few where I feel like they are an every-down back and then you, generally, lose that electric component. I think of these guys as more of your Jeanty, Hampton, Skattebo, and Neal types.

So what do you guys want to see? An every-down replacement for Pacheco going forward? More of a complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down?
What I WANT to see and what the Chiefs are going to do are two different things, IMO.

I think the Chiefs NEED and every-down replacement for Pacheco, but I don't think the Chiefs see it that way, therefore I think the complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down is the way they will go.

To me, the guy that stands out for that above all else is Brashard Smith. Electric in the open field, will really makes dudes miss at the second level, great pass catcher, GREAT pass blocker (major plus for KC here) and the dude was also an elite returner so he offers versatility and several roles where he could make them more explosive.

If the Chiefs don't go after one of the big guns early (and I personally don't think they will, since I think they still believe in Pacheco) this guy is the perfect guy to target with that 4th round pick. Might even have to consider using that late 3rd rounder to get him.
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Old 03-27-2025, 05:22 PM   #272
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What I WANT to see and what the Chiefs are going to do are two different things, IMO.

I think the Chiefs NEED and every-down replacement for Pacheco, but I don't think the Chiefs see it that way, therefore I think the complimentary speed demon that functions on 3rd down is the way they will go.

To me, the guy that stands out for that above all else is Brashard Smith. Electric in the open field, will really makes dudes miss at the second level, great pass catcher, GREAT pass blocker (major plus for KC here) and the dude was also an elite returner so he offers versatility and several roles where he could make them more explosive.

If the Chiefs don't go after one of the big guns early (and I personally don't think they will, since I think they still believe in Pacheco) this guy is the perfect guy to target with that 4th round pick. Might even have to consider using that late 3rd rounder to get him.
I think that's what they signed Mitchell for

But overall, all any of the signings at any position do is allow for BPA. No need to reach anywhere.
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Old 03-27-2025, 05:39 PM   #273
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Skattebo ran a 40 today. Supposedly high 4.5s low 4.6s.
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Old 03-27-2025, 05:41 PM   #274
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If Skatteboo was running in the 4.5's or lower 4.6's in his training, he'd have likely ran at the combine or, at the very least, his pro day where 40s tend to be faster than in Indy.

He must be posting times in training that could potentially hurt him in a crowded RB class. If that's the case, I wouldn't be shocked if he posted times in the +4.7's (if he ran at all) and/or showed up a few pounds lighter than in Indy (219lbs) at around 210-215lbs to aid his speed.

Hopefully, I'm wrong. He's a super fun player to watch regardless of how he tests. Which ever team he goes to, that fanbase will love him.
https://x.com/daniel_rios72/status/1...247114555?s=46

He did run though, and it was reportedly high 4.5s, so I'm saying low 4.6s at worst.

That's fine.
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Kyren Williams-4.65
Kareem Hunt-4.60
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Game speed matters. He’s not a burner but Skattebo is still really good. He’s way more elusive than people think too
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Skattebo ran a 40 today. Supposedly high 4.5s low 4.6s.
Yeah, that'll play.

I'd prefer one of the faster backs, but he's a good bet to be a good player.
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https://x.com/daniel_rios72/status/1...247114555?s=46

He did run though, and it was reportedly high 4.5s, so I'm saying low 4.6s at worst.

That's fine.
High 4.5's to mid 4.6's from what I gathered. Fine indeed. Good stuff.

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Kareem Hunt-4.60
Bucky Irving-4.55

Game speed matters. He’s not a burner but Skattebo is still really good. He’s way more elusive than people think too
He's tough - Contact balance, violence, quickness, and vision - some of the most entertaining chunk gains in this class.
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If you’re looking for 2017 Kareem Hunt, I think Skatteboo has a lot of appeal.

That’s who he reminds me of.
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If you’re looking for 2017 Kareem Hunt, I think Skatteboo has a lot of appeal.

That’s who he reminds me of.
He reminds me precisely of Rex Burkhead...nearly identical running styles and +traits.
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Get in here staylor! Hurricanes Damien Martinez visiting the Chiefs.

I like him.



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The guys we have visited/met with have a trend: they are guys who are bigger backs who are hard runners that are experienced and capable of being 3 down backs early. Experience and quality in all phases: running, receiving and blocking.
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Get in here staylor! Hurricanes Damien Martinez visiting the Chiefs.

I like him.



I love Martinez, just hoping they take a RB earlier than that. I've said it before, but I wish we could double dip and take a lightning guy (Sampson) and a thunder (Martinez). Elijah Mitchell and Hunt singings killed that dream though.
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I've said it before, but I wish we could double dip and take a lightning guy (Sampson) and a thunder (Martinez). Elijah Mitchell and Hunt singings killed that dream though.
I have thought about this a ton as well. I know it'll never happen, but I can't even fathom the kind of protection and defensive looks Mahomes would get if we actually had a dynamic backfield. I would love to see it so much.
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We could draft a guy and maybe grab another as UDFA, there’s so many RB’s in this draft I suspect at least one guy we’ve discussed will fall to the 7th or beyond.
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