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duncan_idaho · 07:45 AM

Year 4 of the Drinkwitz era, let's discuss.

Schedule

Aug. 31 - South Dakoka - W
Sept 9 - Middle Tennessee - W
Sept 16 - kansas State - W
Sept 23 - Memphis
Sept 30 - @Vanderbilt
Oct 7 - LSU
Oct 14 - @Kentucky
Oct 21 - South Carolina
Nov 4 - @Georgia
Nov 11 - Tennessee
Nov 18 - Florida
Nov 24 - @Arkansas

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Jerm · 08-31-2023, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

With his 28 and 7 comment after the game, I doubt Horn takes a snap with a game in doubt the rest of the season.

And when 2024 rolls around, we'll be ****ing the same chicken, pissed about Cook's ceiling, but stuck because the coaching staff will want to stay with the experienced starter.

Hopefully we won’t have to because Drinkwitz won’t be here….

Sassy Squatch · 08-31-2023, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

With his 28 and 7 comment after the game, I doubt Horn takes a snap with a game in doubt the rest of the season.

And when 2024 rolls around, we'll be ****ing the same chicken, pissed about Cook's ceiling, but stuck because the coaching staff will want to stay with the experienced starter.

Not necessarily. If this is STILL the best Drinkwitz can muster it's not a guarantee he makes it to 2024. This team is going to get waffle stomped in SEC play, especially after Burden is out for the year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-31-2023, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Hopefully we won’t have to because Drinkwitz won’t be here….

Then I hope you enjoy having the 20 most talented players get poached.

DJ's left nut · 08-31-2023, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

You could tell that from 5 passes huh?

You couldn't?

Because yeah - it was pretty damn apparent.

Mizzou_8541 · 08-31-2023, 09:46 PM

Been a pretty staunch supporter of Drink, but if he says there’s a QB competition, then let Horn sling it. 5 attempts to 17? Certainly how the game played out played some part of that, but he didn’t even give him a real chance to get evaluated. Really rooting for Cook, but I just don’t see it.

Jerm · 08-31-2023, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Then I hope you enjoy having the 20 most talented players get poached.

There’s the possibility of that happening no matter what and if he isn’t getting anything out of them, what does it really matter?

Pitt Gorilla · 08-31-2023, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

Hopefully we won’t have to because Drinkwitz won’t be here….

Am I missing something here? Drink has put together an insanely talented team that played pretty well tonight. You're ready to fire the guy? WTF is wrong with you?

Pitt Gorilla · 08-31-2023, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

There’s the possibility of that happening no matter what and if he isn’t getting anything out of them, what does it really matter?

What are you watching? Honest question.

Mizzou_8541 · 08-31-2023, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm

There’s the possibility of that happening no matter what and if he isn’t getting anything out of them, what does it really matter?

Like players, coaches improve too. He’s been successful at every level he’s been at so far. Remember the Peat goal line fumble against Auburn? The bullshit roughing the punter penalty? We were a hair away from 8 wins last year with torn labrum Cook. I wouldn’t write Drink off just yet. I don’t agree with how he handled the QB competition tonight, but I think that an intellectually honest person can see that there’s something to Drink that SHOULD give you optimism.

Mizzou_8541 · 08-31-2023, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Am I missing something here? Drink has put together an insanely talented team that played pretty well tonight. You're ready to fire the guy? WTF is wrong with you?

Exactly.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-31-2023, 09:59 PM

The program is in a very tenuous spot. Firing Drinkwitz would mean four different coaches in nine years. That's tough for a middling P5 team in the toughest conference to survive. I really, really want him to work out, because there is elite upside with his recruiting. Missouri will have this NIL advantage for a very short period of time, and if they miss this window, they will be set back perhaps a decade.

They have to thread the needle of having an NIL advantage to pair with an ascending team to give them a level of panache that a team like Oregon had 25 years ago. If Drinkwitz gets fired, the wheels fall off recruiting and the established talent will leave. That's why Cook worries me. He's good enough to get you to a bowl game, but he kneecaps the passing game. Cook has the rare ability to both lose you games (FLA) and not win you games.

Horn will lose them more games than Cook this year. But he also has the potential to win them games that Cook never will.

Three times last year, Cook had a chance to drive the team down and give them a signature win. And every time he failed.

The program needs to take the risk. And it won't. And that's a goddamned shame.

Jerm · 08-31-2023, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Am I missing something here? Drink has put together an insanely talented team that played pretty well tonight. You're ready to fire the guy? WTF is wrong with you?

Did I say fire him? No I didn’t….

Played pretty well tonight? What were YOU watching?

That’s a 3 win FCS team that went toe to toe with you in the second half….sloppy penalties, the place kicker is mind ****ed now, Brady Cook and this offense looks EXACTLY THE SAME as last year.

Sorry if I’m not crying tears of joy over not even covering the spread….

Mizzou_8541 · 08-31-2023, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The program is in a very tenuous spot. Firing Drinkwitz would mean four different coaches in nine years. That's tough for a middling P5 team in the toughest conference to survive. I really, really want him to work out, because there is elite upside with his recruiting. Missouri will have this NIL advantage for a very short period of time, and if they miss this window, they will be set back perhaps a decade.

They have to thread the needle of having an NIL advantage to pair with an ascending team to give them a level of panache that a team like Oregon had 25 years ago. If Drinkwitz gets fired, the wheels fall off recruiting and the established talent will leave. That's why Cook worries me. He's good enough to get you to a bowl game, but he kneecaps the passing game. Cook has the rare ability to both lose you games (FLA) and not win you games.

Horn will lose them more games than Cook this year. But he also has the potential to win them games that Cook never will.

Three times last year, Cook had a chance to drive the team down and give them a signature win. And every time he failed.

The program needs to take the risk. And it won't. And that's a goddamned shame.

Great post. Sort of where I’m at. I’m probably naive but since Cook is clearly QB1 in the staff’s eyes, I’m hoping that his injury limited him.

BryanBusby · 08-31-2023, 10:13 PM

I think the big thing is I am still waiting to see the Offensive prowess from Drinkwitz.

Beyond Brady Cook being all dink and dunk, the Offense still looks sloppy and unprepared in general. They've had 2 years to build things up around him and it just looks mostly shitty.

He has an OC now, so what's the reason this time?

Titty Meat · 08-31-2023, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The program is in a very tenuous spot. Firing Drinkwitz would mean four different coaches in nine years. That's tough for a middling P5 team in the toughest conference to survive. I really, really want him to work out, because there is elite upside with his recruiting. Missouri will have this NIL advantage for a very short period of time, and if they miss this window, they will be set back perhaps a decade.

They have to thread the needle of having an NIL advantage to pair with an ascending team to give them a level of panache that a team like Oregon had 25 years ago. If Drinkwitz gets fired, the wheels fall off recruiting and the established talent will leave. That's why Cook worries me. He's good enough to get you to a bowl game, but he kneecaps the passing game. Cook has the rare ability to both lose you games (FLA) and not win you games.

Horn will lose them more games than Cook this year. But he also has the potential to win them games that Cook never will.

Three times last year, Cook had a chance to drive the team down and give them a signature win. And every time he failed.

The program needs to take the risk. And it won't. And that's a goddamned shame.

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Mizzou_8541 Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $957473	Been a pretty staunch supporter of Drink, but if he says there’s a QB competition, then let Horn sling it. 5 attempts to 17? Certainly how the game played out played some part of that, but he didn’t even give him a real chance to get evaluated. Really rooting for Cook, but I just don’t see it.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7649572	The program is in a very tenuous spot. Firing Drinkwitz would mean four different coaches in nine years. That's tough for a middling P5 team in the toughest conference to survive. I really, really want him to work out, because there is elite upside with his recruiting. Missouri will have this NIL advantage for a very short period of time, and if they miss this window, they will be set back perhaps a decade. They have to thread the needle of having an NIL advantage to pair with an ascending team to give them a level of panache that a team like Oregon had 25 years ago. If Drinkwitz gets fired, the wheels fall off recruiting and the established talent will leave. That's why Cook worries me. He's good enough to get you to a bowl game, but he kneecaps the passing game. Cook has the rare ability to both lose you games (FLA) and not win you games. Horn will lose them more games than Cook this year. But he also has the potential to win them games that Cook never will. Three times last year, Cook had a chance to drive the team down and give them a signature win. And every time he failed. The program needs to take the risk. And it won't. And that's a goddamned shame. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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08-31-2023, 10:13 PM	#284
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3619900 VARSITY	I think the big thing is I am still waiting to see the Offensive prowess from Drinkwitz. Beyond Brady Cook being all dink and dunk, the Offense still looks sloppy and unprepared in general. They've had 2 years to build things up around him and it just looks mostly shitty. He has an OC now, so what's the reason this time?
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