New Conference re-alignment thread

[Saulbadguy]

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Good luck fellas... It was fun while it lasted.

[Brianfo]

Originally Posted by RustShack

The whole Oklahoma to the Pac is just a ploy to get some control from Texas. Texas to the ACC is their bluff back to Oklahoma. Both teams are going to end up staying. There will be equal revenue sharing on at least the first two tier contracts. Most likely adding three BigE schools now even though just BYU has seemed the most likely until the BigE getting blown up yesterday. There is way too much money tied up in the Big12 right now, not to mention the exit fees schools are going to get from aTm. If Texas and Oklahoma do leave its going to activate the death pill clause and they will be on the hook for 70million that I don't think they want to pay the remaining Big12 schools. They are going to sign their new tier one contract in a few years and be making straight cash. Thats what its all about, Big12 isn't going anywhere.

Your and idiot X2. Big 12 is defunct. Quit spewing worthless shit.

[kchero]

This clip has been applied throughout the threads on here, but I feel that it is applicable to the teams that are currently on the outside looking in.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

How is Mizzou ****ed?

The B1G isn't expanding - it just isn't.

The rumors are that the SEC is looking towards VA for their 14th.

The Big East is just another dying conference.

The ACC...jesus, really? That's our new home?

The music looks like it's really close to stopping and if this thing stays like it is - MU is homeless next year. It really only takes 1 season in limbo like that to do a decade worth of damage to your prestige, recruiting, etc...

MU's in bad bad shape if something doesn't come together very soon and I have absolutely zero faith in our leadership at this point.

[LiveSteam]

Originally Posted by Brianfo

Your and idiot X2. Big 12 is defunct. Quit spewing worthless shit.

[|Zach|]

If UCONN gets ACC bid, then there are 8 spots left for survival: ACC (1) SEC (3) Big 10 (4)...if you arent in that group, you are in trouble.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The B1G isn't expanding - it just isn't.

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Heh.

[kchero]

Originally Posted by jAZ

You are assuming that the Pac-12 minus Texas was inherently as weak as the Big-12 was minus Texas. They weren't. Not even close.

Pac-10 owns all of the western US TV Markets.

LA, San Diego, SF, Seattle, Sacramento, Portland, Phoenix, Colorado, SLC

Texas has no leverage to demand much of anything. Their departure from the Pac-16 won't destroy the conference like it would the Big-12.

It's not like UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal, ASU, UA, Washington, Oregon are going to join the Mountain West.

Thanks for the geography lesson on what cities are on the western side of the states. I still stand by my comments. Like I said I hope I am wrong for the sake of your conference, but do not presume so easily that you will not have drama with Texas in your conference down the road.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by tk13

I be no expert in these here matters, but if I were the Mizzou folk I'd get my begging shoes on and I'd be calling everyone in the SEC 5 minutes ago.

"We have more teeth than those West Virginia fellers, take us, take us."

I wouldn't wait around for a Big 10 invite, even if it's a better fit. It's pure speculation but I still wouldn't rule out some kind of Big 12/Big East merger, but will that conference get to be a BCS Superconference, or will it just be a basketball conference that happens to play some football.

I would look for this to be a near certainty due to necessity.

[KC_Connection]

KU never should have gotten rid of Lew Perkins. Or Mark Mangino...but that's a different thread.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I would love to see KU in the Big10 as that makes most sense from a regional standpoint IMO. Would be great to see KSU, KU, and MU all in the Big10 together.


However, I haven't been following this drama THAT closely so I am not sure how realistic that is...

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Good luck fellas... It was fun while it lasted.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

If UCONN gets ACC bid, then there are 8 spots left for survival: ACC (1) SEC (3) Big 10 (4)...if you arent in that group, you are in trouble.

WTF makes anyone think that there are 4 slots in the B1G?

They've shown precisely zero interest in expanding.

And again - the XII is done next season. For MU to have a home next year, they need a conference that's looking to expand immediately. It sure looks like that's not the B1G. And it also looks like the SEC isn't interesting in going to 16 in the near future either.

There appears to be a very good chance that MU is playing an indy schedule next season and that will absolutely cripple them going forward.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

I would love to see KU in the Big10 as that makes most sense from a regional standpoint IMO. Would be great to see KSU, KU, and MU all in the Big10 together.


However, I haven't been following this drama THAT closely so I am not sure how realistic that is...

We don't want your lame ass fan base in our conference.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

WTF makes anyone think that there are 4 slots in the B1G?

They've shown precisely zero interest in expanding.

And again - the XII is done next season. For MU to have a home next year, they need a conference that's looking to expand immediately. It sure looks like that's not the B1G. And it also looks like the SEC isn't interesting in going to 16 in the near future either.

There appears to be a very good chance that MU is playing an indy schedule next season and that will absolutely cripple them going forward.

I think they would expand if it lands them Notre Dame.