Chiefs *****The Joshua Williams Thread***** - Page 19

Dante84 · 10:52 PM

More to come!

TheGuardian · 10-31-2024, 01:01 PM

hahaha I forgot about how bad Bartee was at NOT getting his head around.

He actually always had GREAT position but simply could not turn his head around to make a play on the ball. It was a really odd thing to watch week after week when he'd be sticky as hell on his man but his ability to simply turn his head meant his dude was always catching the ball.

I still think we should trade for a corner even if it's just depth

**BossChief** · 10-31-2024, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

hahaha I forgot about how bad Bartee was at NOT getting his head around.

He actually always had GREAT position but simply could not turn his head around to make a play on the ball. It was a really odd thing to watch week after week when he'd be sticky as hell on his man but his ability to simply turn his head meant his dude was always catching the ball.

I still think we should trade for a corner even if it's just depth

He could have been a superb safety. He really was pretty good in coverage.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-31-2024, 01:22 PM

Williams had a stretch last year, including the playoffs, where he was flat out dominant.

TheGuardian · 10-31-2024, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

He could have been a superb safety. He really was pretty good in coverage.

HE WAS! That was the deal - he could stick to his man like glute but literally just couldn't get his head around.

Coulda been a true lockdown corner had he learned how to do that

Megatron96 · 10-31-2024, 01:42 PM

I confess I haven’t spent much time actually watching Williams, but PFR says he’s allowed a 75% completion rate and a 128 passer rating so far this season. Only been in targeted like 5 times though.

royr17 · 10-31-2024, 02:04 PM

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Bartee should have never been a corner. He was a good safety in college and after he showed them he couldn’t play corner, the coaching staff should have moved him back there where the need to get his head turned would have been mitigated.

It’s what makes me even more appreciative of Spags…that time period where we drafted a few safeties to play corner was hard to watch.

Even when Warfield was an ok corner, I’ll always wonder how good of a safety he could have been.

Bartee and Warfiekd should have both been safeties for us.

They actually did move him back to safety after they signed ty law but he got hurt and that was it

Dunerdr · 10-31-2024, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Williams had a stretch last year, including the playoffs, where he was flat out dominant.

IMO he's been lost in the scheme more than lost on the field. He's capable but his first big one last week he came down on a route that someone else (Reid?) was on and left his guy to run deep.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-31-2024, 02:33 PM

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IMO he's been lost in the scheme more than lost on the field. He's capable but his first big one last week he came down on a route that someone else (Reid?) was on and left his guy to run deep.

PG thinks every player is a damn star. I caught him saying Wanya was playing great

Pitt Gorilla · 10-31-2024, 02:52 PM

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PG thinks every player is a damn star. I caught him saying Wanya was playing great

IIRC, I said that Wanya and Thuney were handling their side of the line really well together in the videos posted (especially on stunts), mainly because they were.

I'm not saying Williams is a star, but he had a stretch last year where was damn good. I'd try to track down stats to support that assertion, but you don't seem a bit concerned with accuracy, data, or reality anyway.

JPH83 · 10-31-2024, 04:14 PM

He was pretty good last year and better than his rookie year. He's been pretty terrible this year. One snap against the Bengals or Chargers was just ugly, cant remember. Not sure what it is but he looks clumsy, easily manipulated, and ill-disciplined.

Maybe he'll lock in with more snaps and step up, there's enough to suggest he can play a lot better. Doesn't mean he will.

UChieffyBugger · Today, 07:35 AM

Nazeeh Johnson played 90% of the snaps against Denver and 100% of the snaps against The Bills.

Williams played 6% against Denver and had ZERO snaps against Buffalo.

Love Spags but what the feck is going on? Johnson is 26 years old, is coming off an ACL injury and has never played much minutes before in the NFL and now after one good camp two years ago he's suddenly starting over Williams who's played in AFC championships and Superbowls?

I'm not saying Joshua is a world beater or anything. But he's clearly more competent than Johnson fgs.

Chiefspants · Today, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Nazeeh Johnson played 90% of the snaps against Denver and 100% of the snaps against The Bills.

Williams played 6% against Denver and had ZERO snaps against Buffalo.

Love Spags but what the feck is going on? Johnson is 26 years old, is coming off an ACL injury and has never played much minutes before in the NFL and now after one good camp two years ago he's suddenly starting over Williams who's played in AFC championships and Superbowls?

I'm not saying Joshua is a world beater or anything. But he's clearly more competent than Johnson fgs.

Williams has shown he’s great in man and blows critical assignments in zone coverage.

It’s like Wayna and Kingsley, where the magnitude of one of Williams’ mistakes could lead to a TD, where Nazeeh might be worse in man but is less likely to make a mistake that’ll lead to 6 on a particular play.

TwistedChief · Today, 07:39 AM

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I'm not saying Joshua is a world beater or anything. But he's clearly more competent than Johnson fgs.

Our HOF-worthy DC obviously feels different.

I choose him over you.

UChieffyBugger · Today, 07:43 AM

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Our HOF-worthy DC obviously feels different.

I choose him over you.

He felt different about Sorenson too!!..I'm sure you agreed right?

UChieffyBugger · Today, 07:43 AM

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Williams has shown he’s great in man and blows critical assignments in zone coverage.

It’s like Wayna and Kingsley, where the magnitude of one of Williams’ mistakes could lead to a TD, where Nazeeh might be worse in man but is less likely to make a mistake that’ll lead to 6 on a particular play.

Williams hasn't been giving up TD's when he plays.

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TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $7545299	hahaha I forgot about how bad Bartee was at NOT getting his head around. He actually always had GREAT position but simply could not turn his head around to make a play on the ball. It was a really odd thing to watch week after week when he'd be sticky as hell on his man but his ability to simply turn his head meant his dude was always catching the ball. I still think we should trade for a corner even if it's just depth
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Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $1440194	Williams had a stretch last year, including the playoffs, where he was flat out dominant. __________________ Your son is a bench warmer because of your weak genetics not because of the coach Norlin Mommsen is disgusting.
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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: North Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $-89600	I confess I haven’t spent much time actually watching Williams, but PFR says he’s allowed a 75% completion rate and a 128 passer rating so far this season. Only been in targeted like 5 times though. __________________ *“Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them.”*- George Orwell Steven "Spags" Spagnuolo is my Adopt-A-Chief!!!
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JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $990400	He was pretty good last year and better than his rookie year. He's been pretty terrible this year. One snap against the Bengals or Chargers was just ugly, cant remember. Not sure what it is but he looks clumsy, easily manipulated, and ill-disciplined. Maybe he'll lock in with more snaps and step up, there's enough to suggest he can play a lot better. Doesn't mean he will.
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UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $670400	Nazeeh Johnson played 90% of the snaps against Denver and 100% of the snaps against The Bills. Williams played 6% against Denver and had ZERO snaps against Buffalo. Love Spags but what the feck is going on? Johnson is 26 years old, is coming off an ACL injury and has never played much minutes before in the NFL and now after one good camp two years ago he's suddenly starting over Williams who's played in AFC championships and Superbowls? I'm not saying Joshua is a world beater or anything. But he's clearly more competent than Johnson fgs.
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