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**DaneMcCloud** · 02:08 PM

For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”

New footage in Japanese Trailer

**Rausch** · 12-27-2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

As far as Ray connecting with the Falcon I think they gave us enough to connect the dots. She told Chewbacca to hang out of sight and wait for her and we were also told she took off. I didn't need to see them meeting up.

I disagree.
I see your point but I disagree.
We're talking about the most powerful man in the galaxy controlling the most powerful ship and they just escape "because she said so."

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

My least favorite scene was Leia in space. I can live with little issues like not using lightspeed as a weapon from the very start if the ship was getting sacrificed. Or why there needed to be somebody to pilot the ship to begin with.

All the stuff in space spit in the face of SW's.
I wasn't a fan of that.
Hell, just being able to ram someone made all previous films pointless...

DJ's left nut · 12-27-2017, 11:46 AM

I haven't made it through this thread because damn it got long in a hurry.

But ultimately I'm at a C+ at best on this movie. And the more of pondered on it, the less I've liked it. I'm sure any particular quibble I have has been discussed to this point so I have very little new to add there.

But the serious, major takeaway I had from this movie is simple - they just turned the Original Trilogy into a prequel for this trilogy. That's it. That is the height of hubris and raw arrogance by Disney/Johnson, IMO.

"Y'know that beloved set of movies? The movies that were so well received by fans that this particular series exists in the first place? **** 'em. We got our own stuff to do here..."

It's an obvious, conscious decision by Disney and Johnson. It's an attempt to re-boot without re-booting and rather than actually closing a loop, they just discarded its remnants so they could limp this thing along for another 20 years and make a boatload of money out of it. And they did it using the energy created by the thing they chose to discard.

The rest of the quibbles over the particular plot devices are going to deal with the whole 'It's space wizards, lighten up' argument. But taking the thing that made all this possible and treating it as a second class citizen so you can forge your own path...just not a fan at all.

Empire - New Hope - Rogue 1 -- TFA - Jedi --- TLJ ------- Sith --- shit

I just don't feel any real need to re-watch this movie and have absolutely no enthusiasm for the next installment. And that's without any real preconceived notion as to where this movie should have gone.

**Rausch** · 12-27-2017, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I haven't made it through this thread because damn it got long in a hurry.

But ultimately I'm at a C+ at best on this movie. And the more of pondered on it, the less I've liked it. I'm sure any particular quibble I have has been discussed to this point so I have very little new to add there.

I've "borrowed" the film after watching it but my opinion hasn't changed. If anything I dislike it more.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But the serious, major takeaway I had from this movie is simple - they just turned the Original Trilogy into a prequel for this trilogy. That's it. That is the height of hubris and raw arrogance by Disney/Johnson, IMO.

IMO that's it.

They want to skin this swamp rat and use it to promote future films with no ties to the OT.

That's it...

**Ragged Robin** · 12-27-2017, 11:56 AM

TLJ is only arguably better than Clone Wars, but even then at least Clone Wars had a better payoff at the end

**Rausch** · 12-27-2017, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

As far as Ray connecting with the Falcon I think they gave us enough to connect the dots. She told Chewbacca to hang out of sight and wait for her and we were also told she took off. I didn't need to see them meeting up.

HOW did that happen?
Explain it to me...

NJChiefsFan · 12-27-2017, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

HOW did that happen?
Explain it to me...

I assumed that once she escaped her first move was to reunite with Chewy. They did have that actual conversation before she left the Falcon. After that they tracked the beacon and joined the battle.

Maybe I am not remembering correctly but it seemed alright to me.

NJChiefsFan · 12-27-2017, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

I disagree.
I see your point but I disagree.
We're talking about the most powerful man in the galaxy controlling the most powerful ship and they just escape "because she said so."

I think I see. Your point is more about how she got off the ship, not how she reunited once she did? Didn't they say she stole Snote's transport while Kylo was knocke out?

oaklandhater · 12-27-2017, 06:37 PM

Pretty good breakdown of the blacklash

Even the day to day drop is pretty heavy for this movie.

Hammock Parties · 12-27-2017, 06:46 PM

Cross sections. The Supremacy can dock EIGHT Star Destroyers.

https://imgur.com/a/1QQ0O

https://imgur.com/a/EKYBL

oaklandhater · 12-27-2017, 06:50 PM

I like the comparison she makes to Rian and Snyder both took a shit on the source material and it suffered with fans.

I Really Really Hope Bob iger makes Kennedy Fire Rian from his new trilogy.

I never want to see a Rian Johnson star wars movie ever again.

Hammock Parties · 12-27-2017, 06:58 PM

Very strong take for TLJ over the last two days. $54 million.

$423 million domestic in 12 days.

Rogue one was at $340 million.

This film has legs.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-27-2017, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Very strong take for TLJ over the last two days. $54 million.

$423 million domestic in 12 days.

Rogue one was at $340 million.

This film has legs.

It’ll completely fall off a cliff next week.

oaklandhater · 12-27-2017, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It’ll completely fall off a cliff next week.

God willing

oaklandhater · 12-27-2017, 07:05 PM

Best takes from her Break down

1.Non choices are worst than bad choices. Couldn't agree more.
2.Not putting a Lightsaber Duel in a mainline Story wars movie should be a fireable offense
3.Stop killing your interesting characters and having them hand the reins to less interesting younger characters
4.Give the audiences what they want. TLJ does the exact opposite of what people wanted for Rey and Luke's death.

Hammock Parties · 12-27-2017, 07:07 PM

Snoke wasn't interesting. He was a generic cartoon character bad guy.

And we've seen PLENTY of lightsaber duels. What Rian gave us was far fresher.

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12-27-2017, 11:46 AM	#2807
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $1169099	I haven't made it through this thread because damn it got long in a hurry. But ultimately I'm at a C+ at best on this movie. And the more of pondered on it, the less I've liked it. I'm sure any particular quibble I have has been discussed to this point so I have very little new to add there. But the serious, major takeaway I had from this movie is simple - they just turned the Original Trilogy into a prequel for this trilogy. That's it. That is the height of hubris and raw arrogance by Disney/Johnson, IMO. "Y'know that beloved set of movies? The movies that were so well received by fans that this particular series exists in the first place? **** 'em. We got our own stuff to do here..." It's an obvious, conscious decision by Disney and Johnson. It's an attempt to re-boot without re-booting and rather than actually closing a loop, they just discarded its remnants so they could limp this thing along for another 20 years and make a boatload of money out of it. And they did it using the energy created by the thing they chose to discard. The rest of the quibbles over the particular plot devices are going to deal with the whole 'It's space wizards, lighten up' argument. But taking the thing that made all this possible and treating it as a second class citizen so you can forge your own path...just not a fan at all. Empire - New Hope - Rogue 1 -- TFA - Jedi --- TLJ ------- Sith --- shit I just don't feel any real need to re-watch this movie and have absolutely no enthusiasm for the next installment. And that's without any real preconceived notion as to where this movie should have gone. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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12-27-2017, 06:37 PM	#2813
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $6828993	Pretty good breakdown of the blacklash Even the day to day drop is pretty heavy for this movie.
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12-27-2017, 06:46 PM	#2814
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $2840478	Cross sections. The Supremacy can dock EIGHT Star Destroyers. https://imgur.com/a/1QQ0O https://imgur.com/a/EKYBL __________________ Chiefs game films
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12-27-2017, 06:50 PM	#2815
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $6828993	I like the comparison she makes to Rian and Snyder both took a shit on the source material and it suffered with fans. I Really Really Hope Bob iger makes Kennedy Fire Rian from his new trilogy. I never want to see a Rian Johnson star wars movie ever again.
Posts: 23,988

12-27-2017, 06:58 PM	#2816
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $2840478	Very strong take for TLJ over the last two days. $54 million. $423 million domestic in 12 days. Rogue one was at $340 million. This film has legs. __________________ Chiefs game films
Posts: 288,127

12-27-2017, 07:05 PM	#2819
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $6828993	Best takes from her Break down 1.Non choices are worst than bad choices. Couldn't agree more. 2.Not putting a Lightsaber Duel in a mainline Story wars movie should be a fireable offense 3.Stop killing your interesting characters and having them hand the reins to less interesting younger characters 4.Give the audiences what they want. TLJ does the exact opposite of what people wanted for Rey and Luke's death.
Posts: 23,988

12-27-2017, 07:07 PM	#2820
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $2840478	Snoke wasn't interesting. He was a generic cartoon character bad guy. And we've seen PLENTY of lightsaber duels. What Rian gave us was far fresher. __________________ Chiefs game films
Posts: 288,127