Funny Stuff New Conference re-alignment thread - Page 187

**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

**Saul Good** · 10-04-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

And Louisville, maybe we'll flip each other off on the freeway?

Expanding east is going to be awkward when there's a 70,000 square mile Missouri-shaped hole between Kansas/Iowa/Oklahoma and Kentucky/Ohio/West Virginia.

Come to think of it, Iowa will no longer border any other state within the conference footprint. It's now the KOTex conference. Iowa is just the string.

Al Bundy · 10-04-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Expanding east is going to be awkward when there's a 70,000 square mile Missouri-shaped hole between Kansas/Iowa/Oklahoma and Kentucky/Ohio/West Virginia.

Come to think of it, Iowa will no longer border any other state within the conference footprint. It's now the KOTex conference. Iowa is just the string.

Well hot Damn

epitome1170 · 10-04-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Well, technically, there are 3 in the Big XII, if we are assuming MU is gone and while 4 is still greater than 3, you can represent that argument in different ways such as:

1/4 of the Big XII are AAU

2/7 of the SEC are AAU

1/4 is greater than 2/7

Of course, that will change depending on who, if anyone, the Big XII brings in.

Umm

2/7 = 0.285
1/4 = 0.25

**Saul Good** · 10-04-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Possible Big 12 replacements for MU, NU, CU & TAMU:

BYU
Louisville
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Air Force
Memphis

If they add BYU and Cincinnati/Air Force/Louisville/West Virginia to go to 10, they will have 3 states in the conference that don't border any other state in the conference.

Maybe they could add BYU, Cincy, Memphis, and TCU. Then, they could have 4 states that don't border any other states in the conference.

**Saul Good** · 10-04-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome1170

Umm

2/7 = 0.285
1/4 = 0.25

It wouldn't be 1/4, it would be 3/8.

**Old Dog** · 10-04-2011, 08:12 PM

As a KSU (and to a lesser extent, KU) fan (my degree is from a school without any real athletic program) I was really hoping that Mizzou would stay, but there's no way in hell they should if they can get to the SEC. Good luck fellas.
I imagine KU will find a landing spot somewhere. Hell, if there is a run in a couple of years of conferences to get to 16, KU could end up in the Big 10 or whatever it's gonna be called.
I'm sure KSU will end up stuck somewhere like the MWC, but it is what it is.

Yeah, I realize that this is really a KU vs MU smack talking thread, I just don't (and never really have) given a damn about that aspect of it. I do hate to possibly see a 100+ year rivalry die though.

Priest31kc · 10-04-2011, 08:12 PM

tsnmike Michael DeCourcy
People really think Mizzou going to the SEC will kill the Big 12? No. It'll kill Mizzou.

**Saul Good** · 10-04-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by truebigdog

As a KSU (and to a lesser extent, KU) fan (my degree is from a school without any real athletic program) I was really hoping that Mizzou would stay, but there's no way in hell they should if they can get to the SEC. Good luck fellas.
I imagine KU will find a landing spot somewhere. Hell, if there is a run in a couple of years of conferences to get to 16, KU could end up in the Big 10 or whatever it's gonna be called.
I'm sure we will end up stuck somewhere like the MWC, but it is what it is.

The B1G could wind up being the biggest loser in all of this. If everything goes to 16, they have already lost Pitt, Syr, and Mizzou. Their pickings are getting pretty slim, so KU might wind up in a pretty good spot.

KChiefs1 · 10-04-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

the thing that was dumb was today I heard on the radio "Who is going to be excited to play bama every year, how is that interesting to people" I was like, I want to see it. I love big time football.

Who said that? I know I'll enjoy it & MU better be looking to expand their stadium too.

**Saul Good** · 10-04-2011, 08:16 PM

Greg Swaim saying that the B1G is "offering" Mizzou and Rutgers.

**KcMizzou** · 10-04-2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Greg Swaim saying that the B1G is offering Mizzou.

Read that too... dude hasn't been much of a source though.

KChiefs1 · 10-04-2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Expanding east is going to be awkward when there's a 70,000 square mile Missouri-shaped hole between Kansas/Iowa/Oklahoma and Kentucky/Ohio/West Virginia.

Come to think of it, Iowa will no longer border any other state within the conference footprint. It's now the KOTex conference. Iowa is just the string.

Iowa State is the one really getting the shaft here...they have no one to cling to.

Demonpenz · 10-04-2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Who said that? I know I'll enjoy it & MU better be looking to expand their stadium too.

ohhhh boy 9:30 am 610?

KChiefs1 · 10-04-2011, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Greg Swaim saying that the B1G is "offering" Mizzou and Rutgers.

That guy hates Mizzou & is a major douche.

|Zach| · 10-04-2011, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Greg Swaim saying that the B1G is "offering" Mizzou and Rutgers.

@PreSnapRead
Paul Myerberg
All Missouri wants to do is take its 5 official visits, it sounds like. Gave a verbal to the B12, but taking trips to the SEC, B10, etc.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $746966	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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