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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

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Old 07-06-2020, 06:04 PM   #28006
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****in Pat never threatened to hold out. Nothing. Never talked about money. He’s finally getting his back scratched without bitching for it. Kid is miles ahead of my age even.
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Old 07-06-2020, 08:18 PM   #28007
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Old 07-06-2020, 09:03 PM   #28008
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****in Pat never threatened to hold out. Nothing. Never talked about money. He’s finally getting his back scratched without bitching for it. Kid is miles ahead of my age even.
Not to take anything away from him, but he didn’t need to make any threats. Literally everyone knew the Chiefs would pay him.

The best QB in the game at 24 years old holds all the leverage in the negotiation.
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Old 07-06-2020, 11:09 PM   #28009
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Old 07-07-2020, 01:05 AM   #28010
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Not to take anything away from him, but he didn’t need to make any threats. Literally everyone knew the Chiefs would pay him.

The best QB in the game at 24 years old holds all the leverage in the negotiation.
It does not seem like he pushed very hard on anything. Only $10M signing bonus and $140M guaranteed for injury. Could have pushed for a signing bonus well over $50M and injury guarantee closer to $200M.
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It does not seem like he pushed very hard on anything. Only $10M signing bonus and $140M guaranteed for injury. Could have pushed for a signing bonus well over $50M and injury guarantee closer to $200M.
people don't realize, this is the new era 'home team discount'. unless he rattles of five more straight super bowls, or underperforms occasionally, the contract will totally hold up, and save for the team with cap numbers going up (9/10) years.

he is the most marketable athlete in the world right now, even more so now.

he's giselle and brady combined
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Patrick Mahomes will make more in a single month than his father did in his entire MLB career. That's $3.75 million for Patrick Mahomes II, and $2.65 million for Pat Mahomes.

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Patrick Mahomes will make more in a single month than his father did in his entire MLB career. That's $3.75 million for Patrick Mahomes II, and $2.65 million for Pat Mahomes.

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That was true when he got a $10M signing bonus for his rookie contract in 2017. True again for his $10M signing bonus on the new extension.
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Anyone who criticizes this deal is a moron.

Even when Mahomes’s cap hit is $45+, you still have to pay your QB something. A middle of the road QB like Teddy Bridgewater will have a cap hit around $25 mm.

So would you rather have Mahomes? Or Bridgewater and Frank Clark (or two pretty average players)?

Yes, the deal might cost us A good player. The idea that we can’t form a respectable team around Mahomes is ridiculous though. If we draft well, no one will ever regret this deal.
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Old 07-07-2020, 08:09 AM   #28016
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Anyone who criticizes this deal is a moron.

Even when Mahomes’s cap hit is $45+, you still have to pay your QB something. A middle of the road QB like Teddy Bridgewater will have a cap hit around $25 mm.

So would you rather have Mahomes? Or Bridgewater and Frank Clark (or two pretty average players)?

Yes, the deal might cost us A good player. The idea that we can’t form a respectable team around Mahomes is ridiculous though. If we draft well, no one will ever regret this deal.
It's a pretty backloaded contract. His average salary is only $30.6 million for the first 6 years. Pretty good chance that a typical "good" QB will be making north of $40M per year by the time Mahomes is actually paid in that neighborhood.

Chiefs are getting an awesome discount for the next 6 seasons. A fully developed, age 30-35 "prime" version of Mahomes at $45-50M salary is very likely a bargain compared to inferior QBs making similar money in the years 2025-2030. Plus I think there is a pretty good chance the back half of this contract will be torn up and restructured. So it's kind of a silly aspect of this contract to be honest.
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It's a pretty backloaded contract. His average salary is only $30.6 million for the first 6 years. Pretty good chance that a typical "good" QB will be making north of $40M per year by the time Mahomes is actually paid in that neighborhood.

Chiefs are getting an awesome discount for the next 6 seasons. A fully developed, age 30-35 "prime" version of Mahomes at $45-50M salary is very likely a bargain compared to inferior QBs making similar money in the years 2025-2030. Plus I think there is a pretty good chance the back half of this contract will be torn up and restructured. So it's kind of a silly aspect of this contract to be honest.
I agree.

The critics aren’t going to see it for what it is, which is why they are morons. Comparing Mahomes’s hit to that of an average-good QB will tell the story of what we’re actually paying him. That difference is what we’re actually losing, because we have to have a QB. Mahomes will always MORE than make up for that difference.
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Anyone who criticizes this deal is a moron.

Even when Mahomes’s cap hit is $45+, you still have to pay your QB something. A middle of the road QB like Teddy Bridgewater will have a cap hit around $25 mm.

So would you rather have Mahomes? Or Bridgewater and Frank Clark (or two pretty average players)?

Yes, the deal might cost us A good player. The idea that we can’t form a respectable team around Mahomes is ridiculous though. If we draft well, no one will ever regret this deal.
Exactly. Even if this deal was crippling to the Chiefs future roster situations, and it is not, what do they expect the team to do?

"Sorry, Pat, we know you're one of the best quarterbacks in the entire history of the sport, but we are just going to have to let you go because we do not want to cripple ourselves when it comes to future roster management. Thanks for the SB, see ya later."
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After signing the first half billion dollar contract, the NFL "experts" are bitching because Mahomes could have gotten more. They never were this butt hurt over Brady being underpaid.
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After signing the first half billion dollar contract, the NFL "experts" are bitching because Mahomes could have gotten more. They never were this butt hurt over Brady being underpaid.
Yep, or when Elway played for the league minimum after Huizenga bought his car dealerships.
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