Trade whatever possible for a LT prospect

[RunKC]

I don’t care. If there’s a LT in this draft that they feel can be a good quality LT, do it.

I don’t care if it would cost three 1st rd picks. Mahomes is not gonna be this athletic for much longer.

It needs to happen

[RealSNR]

If Carl could see us classless and deranged fans now demanding that the Chiefs draft a 1st round fatty

[Balto]

This makes sense and maybe makes some more comfortable with Simmons?

“Yes, Simmons' right leg, his "power leg" as a left tackle, was not directly impacted by the injury, which is a positive factor in his recovery. This is because a left tackle uses their right leg for a more stable and powerful stance, and the injury occurred on his left knee. While a patellar tendon tear is still a serious injury with a longer recovery time than an ACL tear, Simmons' unaffected right leg could aid his rehabilitation and return to full strength.” According to Sports Injury Central.

This makes sense to me. Now it might mean RT is not an option and limits him to LT only?

[DJ's left nut]

You absolutely need that left leg whenever anyone tries to come inside on you. And if it's not sound, teams will just find the weakness and exploit it.

Nah -- doesn't mean much to me.

The gap between truly elite and not even rosterable is so much smaller than what anyone seems to realize. When fully healthy he wasn't an elite prospect -- there's no way a guy playing 'on one leg' with the baseline he had when he was at full gallop would be a starter in the NFL.

The left leg absolutely matters a ton.

[Balto]

I mean it’s not like they cut his left leg off! I’m just pointing out that the more important leg for a LT will still be full strength regardless of how his other knee heals.

Also….Id still disagree with you and say he WAS looked at as an elite prospect before the injury.

[kcbubb]

Link please? I’d like to read that article. My interest in Simmons has declined with some of the information I’ve learned from CP. Crow mentioned that Paris Johnson was a superior prospect to Simmons. And he’s right. Paris is a mountain. Paris is 6’6” & 315 lbs with 36” arms and can move. He was also strong coming out. Hard to get by Paris in college.

https://youtu.be/9mS0-bD2GHw

With my uneducated eye, Simmons athleticism looks different to me. He just moves more like a skill player. Again, I get it. His medical may make him a 2nd rounder but his movement skill is just different. Take a look. One the 2nd video at about 37 seconds in the video, you see Simmons release for a screen. Paris can’t move like that. But Paris is a bigger LT that’s hard to get around. Simmons movement and athleticism is just different and rare. The dbs and LBs have a hard time getting away from him on those screen plays. That’s just not normal.

https://youtu.be/QqIBUM-OJCE

https://youtu.be/_DhEuUfB6no

Originally Posted by Balto

This makes sense and maybe makes some more comfortable with Simmons?

“Yes, Simmons' right leg, his "power leg" as a left tackle, was not directly impacted by the injury, which is a positive factor in his recovery. This is because a left tackle uses their right leg for a more stable and powerful stance, and the injury occurred on his left knee. While a patellar tendon tear is still a serious injury with a longer recovery time than an ACL tear, Simmons' unaffected right leg could aid his rehabilitation and return to full strength.” According to Sports Injury Central.

This makes sense to me. Now it might mean RT is not an option and limits him to LT only?

[kcbubb]

Compare that movement skill and balance to Ersery.

https://youtu.be/GTZrmmSZRxs

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Link please? I’d like to read that article. My interest in Simmons has declined with some of the information I’ve learned from CP. Crow mentioned that Paris Johnson was a superior prospect to Simmons. And he’s right. Paris is a mountain. Paris is 6’6” & 315 lbs with 36” arms and can move. He was also strong coming out. Hard to get by Paris in college.

https://youtu.be/9mS0-bD2GHw

With my uneducated eye, Simmons athleticism looks different to me. He just moves more like a skill player. Again, I get it. His medical may make him a 2nd rounder but his movement skill is just different. Take a look. One the 2nd video at about 37 seconds in the video, you see Simmons release for a screen. Paris can’t move like that. But Paris is a bigger LT that’s hard to get around. Simmons movement and athleticism is just different and rare. The dbs and LBs have a hard time getting away from him on those screen plays. That’s just not normal.

https://youtu.be/QqIBUM-OJCE

https://youtu.be/_DhEuUfB6no

So the fact it's his athleticism and movement that set him apart ... and the fact the injury he sustained is one that has sapped those things for every other dude that have recovered from them...

That's what gives me pause, for sure.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Link please? I’d like to read that article. My interest in Simmons has declined with some of the information I’ve learned from CP. Crow mentioned that Paris Johnson was a superior prospect to Simmons. And he’s right. Paris is a mountain. Paris is 6’6” & 315 lbs with 36” arms and can move. He was also strong coming out. Hard to get by Paris in college.

https://youtu.be/9mS0-bD2GHw

With my uneducated eye, Simmons athleticism looks different to me. He just moves more like a skill player. Again, I get it. His medical may make him a 2nd rounder but his movement skill is just different. Take a look. One the 2nd video at about 37 seconds in the video, you see Simmons release for a screen. Paris can’t move like that. But Paris is a bigger LT that’s hard to get around. Simmons movement and athleticism is just different and rare. The dbs and LBs have a hard time getting away from him on those screen plays. That’s just not normal.

https://youtu.be/QqIBUM-OJCE

https://youtu.be/_DhEuUfB6no

Paris and Ersery move like big strong LTs.....Simmons moves like a DE in a 3-4 Scheme. Neither is better than the other, just different. Even though at his pro day Simmons did 33 bench reps! That would have tied for most reps at combine this year. So Strong and Fast?

Also:

https://sicscore.com/news/ohio-state...is-draft-stock

Despite Josh Simmons claiming he’s ahead of schedule, @ProFootballDoc believes the Ohio State OT should sit out his Pro Day as he continues recovering from the torn patellar tendon he suffered in October. Watch his full breakdown...

Watch PFD Podcast: https://t.co/d8lK2lG9xX pic.twitter.com/b7SxdXiBCq

— Sports Injury Central (@SICscore) March 7, 2025

[Balto]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

So the fact it's his athleticism and movement that set him apart ... and the fact the injury he sustained is one that has sapped those things for every other dude that have recovered from them...

That's what gives me pause, for sure.

In his NONE power Leg!

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Balto

In his NONE power Leg!

I'm not sure what you're even trying to say.

Are you trying to suggest that for a LT, the left leg is less important than the right leg?

Because... I believe most would disagree with you.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I'm not sure what you're even trying to say.

Are you trying to suggest that for a LT, the left leg is less important than the right leg?

Because... I believe most would disagree with you.

He's not sure either.

He read it somewhere and it matched his preconceived opinion so now he's going to lean into it really heavily.

This isn't a situation where you have a pitchers glove arm vs. his throwing arm here. It's more like a hitters drive leg vs. landing leg. One may be slightly less critical but both of them absolutely matter a pretty damn fair bit.

[Balto]

HAHA I love how you talk about "matched his preconceived opinion"!

I simply went looking for medical doctors reports on Simmons and his injury. The first one to pop up talked about how Left Tackles right leg is more important than their left leg.

I'm not trying to do anything but post information I found.

[Balto]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I'm not sure what you're even trying to say.

Are you trying to suggest that for a LT, the left leg is less important than the right leg?

Because... I believe most would disagree with you.

Ok why? I actually never thought about it until I read what a sports doctor said and it makes sense to me that a LEFT tackle would favor his right leg for power and pushing off more so than his left leg. Makes perfect sense. Thus why I said that fact could mean it could limit him to only the left side and not a right tackle. Shrug

[xztop123]

We lose one Super Bowl and spend weeks arguing about 300 + pound men’s knee tendons

[Chiefs 58]

Exactly it will come down to do they trust Kingsley as future tackle or current swing tackle and are they planning on releasing Taylor in 26 to save 20 million probably the difference in if we draft a 1st round tackle or a third round maybe future right tackle