***Official 2023-2024 NBA Thread***

[dirk digler]

Can't believe the NBA Season is starting tonight. Way to early but here we go.

Lakers vs Nuggets: 6:30PM

Suns vs Warriors: 9PM

Both on TNT

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Skip Bayless?

The biggest LeBron hater of 'em all even had to respect what he did in those games, it seems

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

The facts seem to be that LeBron won his 2nd championship after an all-time carry job comeback in the 4th quarter when his complementary stars were so bad they got benched by the coach.

No, these facts:

[KC_Connection]

COMPARING MJ AND LEBRON TEAMMATE PERFORMANCES IN FINALS BY BPM ��

This string takes MJ’s and Lebron’s teammates in Finals, showing the % of teammate minutes played at each BPM level (defined by Basketball Reference), weighted by MP.

MJ’s teammates clearly performed better. pic.twitter.com/JpXWXCC2Kz

— MythNix (@MythNix) February 5, 2024

Talk about your unsurprising facts.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

No, these facts:

So a few turnovers matter more now than the 22 straight points he scored or assisted on in the 4th quarter that even gave Miami the chance to win with Wade and Bosh on the bench?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

So a few turnovers matter more now than the 22 straight points he scored or assisted on in the 4th quarter that even gave Miami the chance to win with Wade and Bosh on the bench?

No, it's not jsut a few turnovers.

Nobody would care about those 22 straight points if the games ends with Lebron turning the ball over 3 times in the final 2 minutes, while missing the game winning shot.

[Kramerica]

I guess Jordan really was much better at elevating the play of his supporting cast, whereas LeBron has mostly been about chasing stats for himself and has gotten bailed out by Allen and Kyrie every time won anything.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I’m not the guy who let a story about MJ’s defensive statistics being fraudulent (which has been obvious forever even before somebody took the time to look at game tape) bother him to the point of crying for days about it. You sure I’m the one who is insecure here?

Followed by a string of posts today focusing on some turnovers in a game 11 years ago in what was otherwise one of the best quarters of LeBron's career on the way to a championship.

But nah, not insecure at all about MJ's place in history compared to LeBron at all.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

COMPARING MJ AND LEBRON TEAMMATE PERFORMANCES IN FINALS BY BPM ��

This string takes MJ’s and Lebron’s teammates in Finals, showing the % of teammate minutes played at each BPM level (defined by Basketball Reference), weighted by MP.

MJ’s teammates clearly performed better. pic.twitter.com/JpXWXCC2Kz

— MythNix (@MythNix) February 5, 2024

Talk about your unsurprising facts.

His greatest teammate perfomance was Wade in 2011.

What did he do with that KCC?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Kramerica

I guess Jordan really was much better at elevating the play of his supporting cast, whereas LeBron has mostly been about chasing stats for himself and has gotten bailed out by Allen and Kyrie every time won anything.

If only LeBron could have just told Bosh to stop being a choker in the playoffs.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Followed by a string of posts today focusing on some turnovers in a game 11 years ago in what was otherwise one of the best quarters of LeBron's career on the way to a championship.

But nah, not insecure at all about MJ's place in history compared to LeBron at all.

You are that bundle of sticks that starts a fight then cries when you get beat up, aren't you?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

His greatest teammate perfomance was Wade in 2011.

What did he do with that KCC?

More than MJ did against the Pistons in '89, that's for sure.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You are that bundle of sticks that starts a fight then cries when you get beat up, aren't you?

You sure you aren't projecting on this one?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

More than MJ did against the Pistons in '89, that's for sure.

What a load of horseshit




And that's ignoring the absolute choke job that was Lebron's 4th quarter stats.

Not only is this not remotely true, MU also didn't have a teammate like Wade playing at an MVP level, so yet another false equivalency.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You sure you aren't projecting on this one?

"No you!"

Is this really all you ever have?

How am I projecting. Anybody can go back and see me constantly pointing out that you bring up MJ first every single time.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Not only is this not remotely true, MU also didn't have a teammate like Wade playing at an MVP level, so yet another false equivalency.

Yes, that's quite right. Pippen was only playing at a mere all-star level by that point. He needed to wait until Pippen became one of the league's best players to actually win a title.