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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
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OP UPDATE: Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! Last edited by Dante84; 05-17-2017 at 09:40 AM.. |
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05-26-2020, 01:54 PM | #27646 |
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There's no reasonable argument for him not being a top 10 QB of all-time, at the very least.
Even ignoring the ridiculous team accolades he's racked up over the years, he was consistently one of the top QBs in the league for 10+ years. Prior to the start of his elite years, he did just enough to help his team win three Super Bowls, and ever since he started declining a bit over the last couple years, he did just enough to add another Super Bowl win to the resume. |
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He buried and desecrated that argument's grave with his comeback against Atlanta and subsequent performance against Philly. |
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05-26-2020, 02:40 PM | #27648 |
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05-26-2020, 02:50 PM | #27649 |
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Not a joke but he seemingly can't play great but one quarter. Maybe a little mor than that but so many games the defense kees it close and he gets way too much credit for the win. Happened all the time to him.
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05-26-2020, 03:03 PM | #27650 | |
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Peyton had more playoff losses than wins. Marino never won the Super Bowl. Aaron Rodgers, Steve Young, Kurt Warner and Drew Brees only have 1 SB each. Not to mention Mahomes just won his first SB doing just what you're complaining Brady did. |
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05-26-2020, 04:44 PM | #27651 | |
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His last three championships are a ****ing joke, though. He certainly earned them because he got that far, but two of them were outright ****ing gifts on single plays (Dee Ford and Bevell not giving Lynch the ball). And the Falcons win is absolutely tremendous-- he everything he had to and made no errors. But he was also gifted a ton of shit by the Falcons. And I don't want to hear about how Mahomes shouldn't have a Super Bowl by the same logic. Mahomes forcibly raped the Texans in the span of a single quarter and further stepped on the gas to leave no doubt in anybody's mind that the Chiefs weren't gifted any favors in that playoff win. All-time great stats (career and single season) as well as 3 legit championships is plenty for me to consider him top 2 all time. He's probably the greatest when you account for those 3 other Super Bowl appearances. But his last three Super Bowls are jokes. They shouldn't be asterisks, but let's say some guy comes along and wins 4 Super Bowls the legit way, has awesome stats both single season and career, and DOESN'T have a notorious reputation for playing for a cheating franchise. I'd probably give that guy the nod as the GOAT. Championships are a significant part of a player's resume. They're the most important, you could say. But they aren't everything. |
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05-26-2020, 06:03 PM | #27652 |
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05-26-2020, 06:07 PM | #27653 | |
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The wins against Seattle, Atlanta and Los Angeles were some bullshit, but a dub is a dub. Those wins required some fluky plays to make happen, but on the flip side you could argue that fluke plays going against him also kept him from another three rings. If not for a helmet catch, or a routine drop by Welker or a strip-sack in a game with over 1,000 yards of offense, he could have had 9 Super Bowls. Ew. That really would be the darkest timeline. |
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05-26-2020, 07:03 PM | #27658 |
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Manning = Greatest regular season QB
Brady = Greatest playoff QB When Mahomes approaches the end of his career, he will be considered unanimously as the Greatest Regular Season + Playoffs QB.
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05-26-2020, 09:12 PM | #27659 |
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Spygate was pre-2007. Brady had his best statistical years as well as three more Super Bowl wins after that.
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