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Old 07-25-2017, 12:10 PM  
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:07 PM   #2746
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I honestly thought Cyrus Gray was going to be a contributor. He did stick on the roster for awhile though.
When I think of him I think of one game/one play
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:11 PM   #2747
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I honestly thought Cyrus Gray was going to be a contributor. He did stick on the roster for awhile though.
Im with you on this one.

The chiefs have had such a great run with Running backs over the last 25 years that I cant help but wonder who the next one is.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:24 PM   #2748
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Matthews is walking injury settlement. The man has had ONE healthy season his entire career.

He couldn't even stay healthy as a back up role-player in Philly.

And you'd be on board with him?

Despite the fact that he's been injured throughout most of his career, he's averaged 750 yards rushing per season along with 37 rushing TD's and 3 receiving TD's.

CJ Spiller has 12 rushing TD's and 9 receiving TD's during that same time span.

I'd take him over West and Spiller in a heartbeat, especially since he'd be the 3rd guy on the depth chart.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:28 PM   #2749
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Our run game is in serious need of some help. Hope someone burst out the gate to tote the rock
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:30 PM   #2750
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7-year vets, even at the vet minimum are more pricey than a RFA.

A 4th string RB has to be cheap, exhibit upside and have the ability to play special teams.

Matthews offers none of that. If we're going to keep a vet as a 4th string back i'd rather keep West or Spiller.
We have 7m in cap space, a 1-year deal for a player is easily done without hurting us in the future. The question is, Can he help our team win this year?
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:31 PM   #2751
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Despite the fact that he's been injured throughout most of his career, he's averaged 750 yards rushing per season along with 37 rushing TD's and 3 receiving TD's.

CJ Spiller has 12 rushing TD's and 9 receiving TD's during that same time span.

I'd take him over West and Spiller in a heartbeat, especially since he'd be the 3rd guy on the depth chart.
Spiller could at least offer some return ability as the 3rd back. I think it was either you or DJ that noted Spiller looked like one of our better return men in the GDT. I agreed.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:56 PM   #2755
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So Odell Beckham Jr. is "pretty damn sure-handed."

Yet Travis Kelce is "inconsistent" and just needs to "catch the damn ball."

Could it be that EVERY team has issues with dropped passes and every receiver, even the really good ones, will drop their fair share of stuff thrown their way?

And maybe this notion that all the teams in the NFL have sure-handed receivers but KC's receivers suck at consistently catching the football is... bullshit?

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?s...=1&sortOrder=0
Uh... Who has said those things?
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Old 08-15-2017, 01:07 PM   #2756
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People on this forum are always bitching about our receivers not catching the ball. Why do you think this forum was so damn obsessed with Bobby Sippio when they saw one freakin highlight reel of his Arena League career?

Dropped passes are a part of the game and they happen to EVERY team. Every team will occasionally fumble the ball, commit penalties, get injured, etc. They're events of variance, and therefore the majority of teams will fall within a certain standard deviation of the league average in all those categories.

The Chiefs are no different than anybody else in that category. We're not the worst team at dropping shit, and just because we've got one guy who drops shit like Demetrius Harris doesn't mean all the receivers are that bad.
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Old 08-15-2017, 01:13 PM   #2757
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People on this forum are always bitching about our receivers not catching the ball. Why do you think this forum was so damn obsessed with Bobby Sippio when they saw one freakin highlight reel of his Arena League career?

Dropped passes are a part of the game and they happen to EVERY team. Every team will occasionally fumble the ball, commit penalties, get injured, etc. They're events of variance, and therefore the majority of teams will fall within a certain standard deviation of the league average in all those categories.

The Chiefs are no different than anybody else in that category. We're not the worst team at dropping shit, and just because we've got one guy who drops shit like Demetrius Harris doesn't mean all the receivers are that bad.
Patriot fans were furious w Welker when he dropped that pass from Brady in the SB against the Giants and many wanted him gone despite everything he did for them. Yet according to you drops are OK or no big deal.

F*** outta here w that loser attitude. Drops are not okay. Do they happen? yes but they should not happen the way they have for us in the playoffs. Period.
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Spiller could at least offer some return ability as the 3rd back. I think it was either you or DJ that noted Spiller looked like one of our better return men in the GDT. I agreed.
Yeah but Mathews offers more, including the ability to score rushing TD's. He scored 8 TD's last year alone, while Spiller has 12 TD's in 7 seasons.

I'd sign him to a Vet Min, incentive laden contract today.
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Patriot fans were furious w Welker when he dropped that pass from Brady in the SB against the Giants and many wanted him gone despite everything he did for them. Yet according to you drops are OK or no big deal.

F*** outta here w that loser attitude. Drops are not okay. Do they happen? yes but they should not happen the way they have for us in the playoffs. Period.
Fans are stupid.

Receivers drop balls. Period.
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Patriot fans were furious w Welker when he dropped that pass from Brady in the SB against the Giants and many wanted him gone despite everything he did for them. Yet according to you drops are OK or no big deal.

F*** outta here w that loser attitude. Drops are not okay. Do they happen? yes but they should not happen the way they have for us in the playoffs. Period.
And that's why they're just fans. Who gives a shit how they feel?
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