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cardken · 02:26 PM

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

KCJohnny · 01-11-2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

They have 62 million invested Bulger

O my gosh. That's a lot of cash. Yikes.

keg in kc · 01-11-2009, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

PPL?

You know how it is. He can't fathom the idea that somebody might not agree with him about anything. It absolutely must be part of a larger conspiracy. In fact, even if we don't agree with each other on, well, anything, we're still all part of the PPL. It's his way or the highway. If you're not goose-stepping in perfect time with him, you're against him.

kcxiv · 01-11-2009, 06:31 AM

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**the Talking Can** · 01-11-2009, 07:07 AM

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bdeg · 01-11-2009, 07:27 AM

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...rting_to_bond/

milkman · 01-11-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

You know how it is. He can't fathom the idea that somebody might not agree with him about anything. It absolutely must be part of a larger conspiracy. In fact, even if we don't agree with each other on, well, anything, we're still all part of the PPL. It's his way or the highway. If you're not goose-stepping in perfect time with him, you're against him.

When is the next super secret PPL meeting?

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-11-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...rting_to_bond/

Pioli, KC starting to bond

By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff | January 11, 2009

Discussions between the Kansas City Chiefs and Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli have intensified, according to an NFL source. Although negotiations had not begun as of early last night, word out of Kansas City was that the possibility of a marriage was picking up momentum.

Even before he interviewed last Monday, Pioli was presumed to be the Chiefs' top choice to run their football operation. That hasn't changed since Kansas City chairman Clark Hunt conducted a thorough, close-to-the-vest search that has included multiple candidates.

Hunt, interim president Denny Thum, and Pioli have increased their dialogue and think they could form a strong partnership, which is crucial, because regardless of whom the Chiefs hire, that person will have to work closely with Thum.

As part of the search for a general manager, Hunt has stated that he plans to split the job, with Thum handling business matters and the new hire focusing mostly on the football side. Although it has been suggested that Pioli, 43, might be seeking total control and thus wouldn't be comfortable with such an arrangement, the increased intensity of talks indicate that might not be the case.

Hunt has decided to split the job after former general manager Carl Peterson, who was with the club for 20 years, held both titles. In dividing the job, Hunt has said he wants a general manager who would be a "fresh set of eyes" and "shrewd evaluator of talent."

Pioli, a two-time Sporting News Executive of the Year Award winner, would qualify.

While Pioli and the Chiefs moved closer, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels has emerged as a top candidate to become the Denver Broncos head coach, according to Adam Schefter of the NFL Network.

McDaniels had a second interview with the Broncos last Thursday.

rad · 01-11-2009, 08:44 AM

Again.

"Okay, gang...."

Brock · 01-11-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

That's what I feel as well. BTW I'd rather trade down and get Sanchez, than stay at 3 and get Stafford, if we HAVE to use a 1st on a QB.

(This opinion may change after combine performances.)

"Trade down and get Sanchez"? LOL

Mr. Plow · 01-11-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

Has somebody said it yet? If not:

RE_POST!!!!

Wow you guys are quicker than I thought. Article was up at 10:05p on 1/10 & I posted it at 10:35p on 1/10 and didn't see it listed. Unless it's just an old article reposted by the Boston Globe.

Mr. Plow · 01-11-2009, 10:14 AM

Nevermind....just found it at 9:58.

Fat Elvis · 01-11-2009, 10:16 AM

The funny thing is when the Chiefs start to turn things around, Shortjeep Johnny will be here saying, "I told you so. Chalk those victories up to the coaching of Herm and Gunther along with the astute personel moves by Carl. You don't turn around a team in just a few years; they laid the foundation--the new regime is simply the lucky benefactors of the true workhorses--and if we had stuck with Thigpen, the turnaround would of happened much sooner. Just look at his stats compared to Ryan and Flacco."

Reerun_KC · 01-11-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

The funny thing is when the Chiefs start to turn things around, Shortjeep Johnny will be here saying, "I told you so. Chalk those victories up to the coaching of Herm and Gunther along with the astute personel moves by Carl. You don't turn around a team in just a few years; they laid the foundation--the new regime is simply the lucky benefactors of the true workhorses--and if we had stuck with Thigpen, the turnaround would of happened much sooner. Just look at his stats compared to Ryan and Flacco."

My only HOPE is when Herm is gone.... KCJohnny will be also... I just ahve a feeling he is still crying over Carl being removed, while watching re-runs of the 1992 regular season games...

Ultra Peanut · 01-11-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

"Trade down and get Sanchez"? LOL

A lot of people, not just on the Planet, seem to think Sanchez is going to get a second round grade.

Yyyyeah.

Fritz88 · 01-11-2009, 10:38 AM

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2...iot_column.txt

Patriots must do everything in their power to hold on to Pioli

Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:41 AM EST

By Jim Donaldson, The Providence Journal

On New Year’s Day, New England Patriots fans — already suffering from the hangover of their team being out of the playoffs for the first time since the 2002 season — awoke to media reportss that Scott Pioli, Pats vice president of player personnel, would decide before the end of the day whether to take over as top football executive for the Cleveland Browns.

It’s now more than a week later, and Pats fans still are holding their breath while Pioli decides whether to go to the Browns (highly unlikely), or (possibly) to the Kansas City Chiefs — with whom he interviewed earlier this week, or remain in New England. While with the Patriots his personnel acquisitions over nine seasons have enabled the team to acquire three Super Bowl rings, win four AFC championships, record a perfect 16-0 regular season in 2007, and compile regular-season winning streaks of 18 games (2003-04) and 21 games (2006-08).

Let me say that I don’t know what Pioli’s going to do. Pioli himself has yet to decide what he was going to do, or at least hasn’t announced his decision.

But I certainly know what I would do if I were the Patriots. Or the Browns. Or the Chiefs.

I’d do whatever it took to have Pioli on my payroll.

From the Patriots’ standpoint, the reasons to retain him are obvious. He and head coach Bill Belichick work exceptionally well together and the results of their combined efforts approach the incredible — eight straight winning seasons, in seven of which the Pats have won at least 10 games.

The Patriots won a franchise-record, five straight AFC titles from 2003 through 2007, and six in seven years. Over the last six years, New England’s regular-season record is a dazzling, 77-19.

Like Green Bay in the ’60s, the Steelers in the ’70s, the 49ers in the ’80s, and the Cowboys in the ’90s, the Patriots are the dominant team of this decade, and Pioli has played a major role in the franchise’s success.

Pioli and his staff of scouts have done a first-rate job of identifying talented prospects that fit into the Patriots’ system and organization. He’s also done a first-rate job of enabling the Pats to continue to retain the players necessary for success under the trying conditions of the NFL salary cap.

Pioli is, quite simply, the best in the business, as the Patriots’ record attests.

Which is why, if I were owner Robert Kraft, I’d do everything possible to keep him.

And it’s also why, if I were Randy Lerner in Cleveland, or Carl Hunt in Kansas City, I’d do everything I could to lure Pioli away from New England.

From Pioli’s standpoint, there’s never been any indication that he’s unhappy here. His achievements have been recognized both publicly — he’s been NFL Executive of the Year three times (2003, 2004, 2007) — and contractually.

Still, the challenge of being in complete control of a franchise, with a paycheck commensurate with that responsibility, has to be tempting — more so in Kansas City than Cleveland.

You have to think that, if Pioli wanted the Browns job, he’d have taken it by now. The Browns announced the hiring of former Jets coach Eric Mangini Thursday and reportedly will be interviewing Eagles general manager Tom Heckert and Ravens pro personnel director George Kokinis for the GM post.

Mangini’s hiring increases the chances that former Browns coach Romeo Crennel will remain in Cleveland as defensive coordinator, and is yet another indication that Pioli won’t be joining them.

The connections between Pioli and Mangini extend beyond their years together in New England. Mangini is the brother-in-law of Cleveland Indians general manager Mark Shapiro, who is one of Pioli’s best friends, dating back to when Belichick was coaching the Browns and hired Pioli as a pro personnel assistant.

But Pioli was reported to favor Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz as Crennel’s replacement — perhaps a reflection of a rift with Mangini in the wake of his leaving New England for New York, which drew Belichick’s ire, and the Spygate controversy, which Mangini triggered.

It also has been reported that Mangini favors Kokinis for the GM job in Cleveland.

Those aren’t the only reasons that Kansas City appears to be a much better situation for Pioli.

The Hunt family, which has owned the franchise since its inception in the old American Football League, traditionally has been patient with its coaches and top executives — too patient, many Chiefs followers would say, with Carl Peterson, who resigned as GM last month after 20 years on the job.

Long a top franchise — Kansas City played in two of the first four Super Bowls, and made the playoffs six times from 1991-97 — the Chiefs have fallen on hard times, finishing 2-14 this season after going 4-12 last year with Herm Edwards as coach.

Presumably, the owners would have no problem giving Pioli complete control of football operations, including allowing him to bring in a new coach. The Chiefs also have considerable cap room, enabling Pioli to sign talented players, which could spark a quick turnaround. In any case, the Chiefs have nowhere to go but up.

We’ll soon see if Pioli wants to go to Kansas City.

If you’re a Patriots fan, you should be hoping he stays.

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Fritz88 Custom User Title Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $8505943	http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2...iot_column.txt *Patriots must do everything in their power to hold on to Pioli* Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:41 AM EST By Jim Donaldson, The Providence Journal On New Year’s Day, New England Patriots fans — already suffering from the hangover of their team being out of the playoffs for the first time since the 2002 season — awoke to media reportss that Scott Pioli, Pats vice president of player personnel, would decide before the end of the day whether to take over as top football executive for the Cleveland Browns. It’s now more than a week later, and Pats fans still are holding their breath while Pioli decides whether to go to the Browns (highly unlikely), or (possibly) to the Kansas City Chiefs — with whom he interviewed earlier this week, or remain in New England. While with the Patriots his personnel acquisitions over nine seasons have enabled the team to acquire three Super Bowl rings, win four AFC championships, record a perfect 16-0 regular season in 2007, and compile regular-season winning streaks of 18 games (2003-04) and 21 games (2006-08). Let me say that I don’t know what Pioli’s going to do. Pioli himself has yet to decide what he was going to do, or at least hasn’t announced his decision. But I certainly know what I would do if I were the Patriots. Or the Browns. Or the Chiefs. I’d do whatever it took to have Pioli on my payroll. From the Patriots’ standpoint, the reasons to retain him are obvious. He and head coach Bill Belichick work exceptionally well together and the results of their combined efforts approach the incredible — eight straight winning seasons, in seven of which the Pats have won at least 10 games. The Patriots won a franchise-record, five straight AFC titles from 2003 through 2007, and six in seven years. Over the last six years, New England’s regular-season record is a dazzling, 77-19. Like Green Bay in the ’60s, the Steelers in the ’70s, the 49ers in the ’80s, and the Cowboys in the ’90s, the Patriots are the dominant team of this decade, and Pioli has played a major role in the franchise’s success. Pioli and his staff of scouts have done a first-rate job of identifying talented prospects that fit into the Patriots’ system and organization. He’s also done a first-rate job of enabling the Pats to continue to retain the players necessary for success under the trying conditions of the NFL salary cap. Pioli is, quite simply, the best in the business, as the Patriots’ record attests. Which is why, if I were owner Robert Kraft, I’d do everything possible to keep him. And it’s also why, if I were Randy Lerner in Cleveland, or Carl Hunt in Kansas City, I’d do everything I could to lure Pioli away from New England. From Pioli’s standpoint, there’s never been any indication that he’s unhappy here. His achievements have been recognized both publicly — he’s been NFL Executive of the Year three times (2003, 2004, 2007) — and contractually. Still, the challenge of being in complete control of a franchise, with a paycheck commensurate with that responsibility, has to be tempting — more so in Kansas City than Cleveland. You have to think that, if Pioli wanted the Browns job, he’d have taken it by now. The Browns announced the hiring of former Jets coach Eric Mangini Thursday and reportedly will be interviewing Eagles general manager Tom Heckert and Ravens pro personnel director George Kokinis for the GM post. Mangini’s hiring increases the chances that former Browns coach Romeo Crennel will remain in Cleveland as defensive coordinator, and is yet another indication that Pioli won’t be joining them. The connections between Pioli and Mangini extend beyond their years together in New England. Mangini is the brother-in-law of Cleveland Indians general manager Mark Shapiro, who is one of Pioli’s best friends, dating back to when Belichick was coaching the Browns and hired Pioli as a pro personnel assistant. But Pioli was reported to favor Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz as Crennel’s replacement — perhaps a reflection of a rift with Mangini in the wake of his leaving New England for New York, which drew Belichick’s ire, and the Spygate controversy, which Mangini triggered. It also has been reported that Mangini favors Kokinis for the GM job in Cleveland. Those aren’t the only reasons that Kansas City appears to be a much better situation for Pioli. The Hunt family, which has owned the franchise since its inception in the old American Football League, traditionally has been patient with its coaches and top executives — too patient, many Chiefs followers would say, with Carl Peterson, who resigned as GM last month after 20 years on the job. Long a top franchise — Kansas City played in two of the first four Super Bowls, and made the playoffs six times from 1991-97 — the Chiefs have fallen on hard times, finishing 2-14 this season after going 4-12 last year with Herm Edwards as coach. Presumably, the owners would have no problem giving Pioli complete control of football operations, including allowing him to bring in a new coach. The Chiefs also have considerable cap room, enabling Pioli to sign talented players, which could spark a quick turnaround. In any case, the Chiefs have nowhere to go but up. We’ll soon see if Pioli wants to go to Kansas City. If you’re a Patriots fan, you should be hoping he stays.
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