Star Wars Episode VIII SPOILERS thread

[DaneMcCloud]

For all things Episode VIII related info including spoilers.

The release date is now December 15, 2017.

The Official Synopsis from Star Wars.com

“In Lucasfilm’s Star Wars: The Last Jedi, the Skywalker saga continues as the heroes of The Force Awakens join the galactic legends in an epic adventure that unlocks age-old mysteries of the Force and shocking revelations of the past.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi opens in U.S. theaters on December 15, 2017.”









New footage in Japanese Trailer

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

To each his own.

Exactly.

I'm happy you enjoyed the movie but that experience isn't universal.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

"right the ship".

With Mark's recent tweets, I wonder if JJ called Hamill and said "9 is where we make things right".

I love TLJ, in fact, I think it's going to grow on the fanbase similar to ESB did after ROTJ (it's not ESB, but still, it's daring).

Unfortunately, I think the ultimate outcome of this film is that JJ and Kasden are going to put out an unoriginal and safe story to "right the ship" in 9 - and that's unfortunate. 7 was so unoriginal you may as well call it "Into Darkness' or, uh, A New Hope Awakens. I think 9 is going to follow suit.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Unfortunately, I think the ultimate outcome of this film is that JJ and Kasden are going to put out an unoriginal and safe story to "right the ship" in 9 - and that's unfortunate. 7 was so unoriginal you may as well call it "Into Darkness' or, uh, A New Hope Awakens. I think 9 is going to follow suit.

Kasdan isn't producing nor writing Episode IX. Chris Terrio and JJ are co-writing the film, with JJ directing. Apparently, the Episode IX story was pitched to Iger last week.

Everyone I know is out of the office for the holidays, so I have no idea how it was received. My gut tells me that Iger will be far more involved with Episode IX, especially considering the disappointing reactions and box office for VIII.

I'll still be shocked if Rian's trilogy is a go, after all the carnage.

Maybe an episode but a trilogy? I think that's a long shot.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Kasdan isn't producing nor writing Episode IX.

Chris Terrio and JJ are co-writing the film, with JJ directing.

Apparently, the Episode IX story was pitched to Iger last week.

Everyone I know is out of the office for the holidays, so I have no idea how it was received.

Whoops, I should have said "JJ with Kasden's blessing."

Out of curiosity, which film do you prefer, Dane? TFA or TLJ? You seemed pretty turned off by both.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Whoops, I should have said "JJ with Kasden's blessing."

Out of curiosity, which film do you prefer, Dane? TFA or TLJ? You seemed pretty turned off by both.

I didn't especially like either film.

I've seen TFA a dozen times but it's still difficult for me to get through. TLJ had so much ridiculousness (the "Slow Space Chase", Snoke's easy death, Leia floating in space, Canto Bight, which missed on the obvious, and Luke running away) that I'll need to see it a few more times once it's available on VUDU next year in order to make a decision.

For the record, I can watch Rogue One any time of the day or night, even a year after release.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I didn't especially like either film.

I've seen TFA a dozen times but it's still difficult for me to get through. TLJ had so much ridiculousness (the "Slow Space Chase", Snoke's easy death, Leia floating in space, Canto Bight, which missed on the obvious, and Luke running away) that I'll need to see it a few more times once it's available on VUDU next year in order to make a decision.

For the record, I can watch Rogue One any time of the day or night, even a year after release.

Rogue one is untouchable Hell yeah.




Would love to know why they didn't give Gareth Edwards a trilogy.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I didn't especially like either film.

I've seen TFA a dozen times but it's still difficult for me to get through. TLJ had so much ridiculousness (the "Slow Space Chase", Snoke's easy death, Leia floating in space, Canto Bight, which missed on the obvious, and Luke running away) that I'll need to see it a few more times once it's available on VUDU next year.

For the record, I can watch Rogue One any time of the day or night, even a year after release.

Completely agreed. I love Rogue One and I still see so much more potential with the standalones in this series. There's never going to be the pressure on the standalones that the Skywalker saga has - (though Solo and Kenobi will be interesting to see on screen).

I like TFA okay, but I haven't seen it since it was in theaters. I own it, but I always end up watching A New Hope instead. So many of the "big" moments in TFA feel like listless shadows of its superior inspiration, but they lack the context that made A New Hope stand the test of time. Moments like a droid carrying secret plans to the rebels/resistance, blowing up the Death Star, and Luke/Rey mastering the force just didn't have near the impact that they did in the original.

It's possible I'll sour on TLJ, but I at least was on the edge of my seat and couldn't anticipate where it was going next - and I want to see it again, which isn't something I could ever really say about TFA.

Rogue One definitely has both beat, though. I'm hoping Ron Howard comes through in a similar way next year.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Rogue one is untouchable Hell yeah.




Would love to know why they didn't give Gareth Edwards a trilogy.

We can all agree Rogue One kicks wholesale ass. I said after seeing it that this movie justified the sale to Disney and showed the potential of Star Wars in its hands.

Rumor is that Gareth couldn't quite crack the 3rd act, though, and they had to bring Tony Gilroy in to stick the landing. It's possible they’re gunshy on giving more work to Gareth for that reason.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

We can all agree Rogue One kicks wholesale ass. I said after seeing it that this movie justified the sale to Disney and showed the potential of Star Wars in its hands.

Rumor is that Gareth couldn't quite crack the 3rd act, though, and they had to bring Tony Gilroy in to stick the landing. It's possible their gunshy on giving more work to Gareth for that reason.

Yet they gave Rian a trilogy with Canto Bight/Rose and Finn story line.

That shit was prequel level bad.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Rumor is that Gareth couldn't quite crack the 3rd act, though, and they had to bring Tony Gilroy in to stick the landing. It's possible their gunshy on giving more work to Gareth for that reason.

What happened was that the initial showing to Iger, he admitted it needed changes. Gareth really wanted to kill everyone off and after Iger saw it, he agreed.

Tony Gilroy was brought in to script the final act while Gareth was directing the VFX team, as they had a short window.

When it was all said and done, Gareth received full Director's Credit by the DGA.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What happened was that the initial showing to Iger, he admitted it needed changes. Gareth really wanted to kill everyone off and after Iger saw it, he agreed.

Tony Gilroy was brought in to script the final act while Gareth was directing the VFX team, as they had a short window.

When it was all said and done, Gareth received full Director's Credit by the DGA.

Makes sense - though if that’s the case I’m surprised Disney hasn’t seemed to consider bringing Gareth back considering the praise for R1.

Was the speculation that R1 was 40% reshot similar to the speculation about Solo - garbage?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Makes sense - though if that’s the case I’m surprised Disney hasn’t seemed to consider bringing Gareth back considering the praise for R1.

They're so early in the process, with three films in 5+ years since the Disney purchase, that I'm pretty sure they're figuring out what works and what doesn't work.

Gareth obviously worked.

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Was the speculation that R1 was 40% reshot similar to the speculation about Solo - garbage?

Solo was a Page 1 re-shoot. The only scenes that I know of that were kept were Thandie Newton's Mo-Cap sessions, which may not even make the final cut.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They're so early in the process, with three films in 5+ years since the Disney purchase, that I'm pretty sure they're figuring out what works and what doesn't work.

Gareth obviously worked.



Solo was a Page 1 re-shoot. The only scenes that I know of that were kept were Thandie Newton's Mo-Cap sessions, which may not even make the final cut.

I would pay good money to see some of the Lord and miller cut of solo.

Same goes for the Antman Wright version .

I always want what I can't have -Josh Trank's F4 movie that POS was/is always gonna suck.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Some of us still have hope that J.J goes on a full apology tour and walks back everything Rian sets up.

BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

JJ IS COMPLETE, UNORIGINAL SHITE COMPARED TO JOHNSON, and that's not even ****ing debatable.

You REALLY need to pull your head from your ass on this one. It's worse, WAY worse than your politics by a country mile, and that's truly saying something.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

BWA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

JJ IS COMPLETE, UNORIGINAL SHITE COMPARED TO JOHNSON, and that's not even ****ing debatable.

You REALLY need to pull your head from your ass on this one. It's worse, WAY worse than your politics by a country mile, and that's truly saying something.

Judging someone's opinion of art should be a non-starter.

That said, everyone knows his opinion of this movie, as he's stated it ad nauseam.

Enough.