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Old 12-30-2008, 09:05 PM  
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The Pioli Watch Thread

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

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New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

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Old 01-11-2009, 01:34 AM   #2731
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The only way Herm stays is if the new GM wants to have a top 5 pick again next year.

If he's watched Herm's tape, he would know that He is the man for the job.
No more "play to win the draft"; two years is QUITE enough, thank you.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:35 AM   #2732
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:36 AM   #2733
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This ****er's more than twice as long as the Carl resigns thread.
I think people were in too much shock to type during that event.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:37 AM   #2734
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No more "play to win the draft"; two years is QUITE enough, thank you.
Oh I know. It was just a joke. A jab at an idiot coach.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:38 AM   #2735
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Is it a slam-dunk no-way-in-heck-he-won't-do-it that (if hired) Pioli (a) fires Herm and (b) drafts a QB with the #3 overall?

I mean, Pioli drafted Tom Brady in the 6th round, didn't he? That's one round higher than Thigpen.
So does that mean Thigpen is only gonna win two SuperBowls?
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:42 AM   #2736
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I can see a trade down now due to the reported endorsement that Pioli gave Albert.It's all relative how the organization wants to structure itself.
That's what I feel as well. BTW I'd rather trade down and get Sanchez, than stay at 3 and get Stafford, if we HAVE to use a 1st on a QB.

(This opinion may change after combine performances.)
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:45 AM   #2737
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So does that mean Thigpen is only gonna win two SuperBowls?
No, its an honest Q. Pioli is being hailed around here as The Answer and he stumbled upon the Pats' greatest player when Bledsoe got hurt IIRC. I believe Pioli would be a great improvement over King Carl's empire but the issue facing KC now is do we draft a top 3 QB and start all over again or do we try to develop Thigpen and give him a little bit of defense to support him?
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:46 AM   #2738
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He doesn't blitz because 39 of the Titans 43? sacks came from the front four. There was no need to blitz, if he didn't have to take a man out of coverage to get pressure on the QB.

EDit: without THAT front four, he MIGHT be more inclined to blitz.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:47 AM   #2739
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No, its an honest Q. Pioli is being hailed around here as The Answer and he stumbled upon the Pats' greatest player when Bledsoe got hurt IIRC. I believe Pioli would be a great improvement over King Carl's empire but the issue facing KC now is do we draft a top 3 QB and start all over again or do we try to develop Thigpen and give him a little bit of defense to support him?
How can a defense help Thigpen's accuracy?

He's a gimmick QB. You're basically going to be starting all over anyway because the next OC isn't going to run the pistol.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:47 AM   #2740
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That's what I feel as well. BTW I'd rather trade down and get Sanchez, than stay at 3 and get Stafford, if we HAVE to use a 1st on a QB.

(This opinion may change after combine performances.)
I believe both Sanchez and Stafford are top 3 picks, it'll just depend who the Lions like more or if they are looking for a QB in general.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:50 AM   #2741
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How can a defense help Thigpen's accuracy?

He's a gimmick QB. You're basically going to be starting all over anyway because the next OC isn't going to run the pistol.
That's the PPL. Thigpen is raw but has talent, athletic ability, toughness and showed some good leadership. How can a defense help? KC lost 8 games in '08 by 7 points or less, that's how. The Chiefs D is ranked #32. Do the math.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:50 AM   #2742
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I believe both Sanchez and Stafford are top 3 picks, it'll just depend who the Lions like more or if they are looking for a QB in general.
Q: why is it that most mock drafts do not have StL taking a QB with the #2 overall?
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:52 AM   #2743
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That's the PPL. Thigpen is raw but has talent, athletic ability, toughness and showed some good leadership. How can a defense help? KC lost 8 games in '08 by 7 points or less, that's how. The Chiefs D is ranked #32. Do the math.
PPL?

Did you watch the games?

His accuracy from 15 yards and out was god awful.

He has athletic ability. Talent? That's very questionable.
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Q: why is it that most mock drafts do not have StL taking a QB with the #2 overall?
Marc Bulger's 10 million dollar cap figure.
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Q: why is it that most mock drafts do not have StL taking a QB with the #2 overall?

They have 62 million invested Bulger
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