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Old 10-10-2023, 08:45 PM  
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2024 WR Class

Some interesting WRs in the upcoming class, who do you like?

1st - 2nd RD WR Targets:

Keon Coleman, FSU, 6-4, 215, 4.6
Emeka Egbuka, OH ST, 6-1, 205, 4.3
Adonai Mitchell, TX, 6-4, 195, 4.5
Troy Franklin, ORG, 6-3, 185, 4.41
Xavier Legette, SC, 6-1, 225, 4.29
Brian Thomas, LSU, 6-4, 205, 4.35
Xavier Worthy, TX, 6-1, 175, 4.22
Ja'Lynn Polk, WAS, 6-2, 205, 4.48
Johnny Wilson, FSU, 6-7, 235, 4.42
Branden Rice, USC, 6-3, 210, 4.38
Malachi Corley, WKU, 5-11, 200, 4.46
Jermain Burton, BAMA, 6-0, 195, 4.31

*This entire class is tall WTF?

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Old 04-18-2024, 03:04 PM   #2716
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Old 04-18-2024, 03:05 PM   #2717
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My initial thought on the draft after signing Brown was that a trade up for a surefire LT would be the plan, if Veach has a guy in mind.

I then got caught up in the sexy WR options, but as next week nears I've come back around to that thinking. That 5-year investment makes a lot of sense, especially when Mahomes proved last year that all he needs at WR is guys who don't drop the ball. Those guys can be had off the street or in mid-late rounds, as boring as that might be.

You likely aren't finding a franchise LT outside of the top 15 picks.
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Old 04-18-2024, 03:12 PM   #2718
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My initial thought on the draft after signing Brown was that a trade up for a surefire LT would be the plan, if Veach has a guy in mind.

I then got caught up in the sexy WR options, but as next week nears I've come back around to that thinking. That 5-year investment makes a lot of sense, especially when Mahomes proved last year that all he needs at WR is guys who don't drop the ball. Those guys can be had off the street or in mid-late rounds, as boring as that might be.

You likely aren't finding a franchise LT outside of the top 15 picks.
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Old 04-18-2024, 03:34 PM   #2719
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Well let's give it a look - I suspect you have 'top 10' comprises most of them. Before I do the homework I'll say top 10 is roughly 1/2 of your top tier tackles, another 25% in the next 22 picks, the remaining 25% everywhere else. We'll use PFF because it's an easy list.

Sewell: 7th overall
Williams: 4th overall
Mailata: 7th Round
Tyron Smith: 9th overall
Wirfs: 13th overall
Braden Smith: 2nd Round
Darrisaw: 23rd overall
Raimann: 3rd round
Decker: 16th overall
Morgan Moses: 3rd Round
Trent Brown: 7th Round
Kolton Miller: 15th Overall
Lane Johnson: 4th overall
Rob Havenstein: 2nd Round
Zach Tom: 4th Round
Terron Armstead: 3rd Round
Rashawn Slater: 13th Overall
Andrew Thomas: 4th Overall
Garett Bolles: 20th Overall
Kaleb McGary: 31st Overall
Laremy Tunsil: 13th Overall
Dion Dawkins: 2nd Round
Taylor Moton: 2nd Round
Brian O'neill: 2nd Round
Ryan Ramczyk: 32nd overall
Luke Goedeke: 2nd Round
Spencer Brown: 3rd Round
Ronnie Stanley: 6th Overall
Orlando Brown: 3rd Round
Cam Robinson: 2nd Round

Towards the bottom of that list I added some guys (and subtracted some) to address off seasons or out of the ordinary good ones. Guys like Cross and Ekwonu are early in their careers but I don't think either trend as 'franchise LTs right now. So I think that's a reasonably representative list. The top 10 was actually pretty sparse (only 4 of them) so I moved it to top 16 - the front half of the round.

Top 16: 11
17 - 32: 4
Everyone else: 14

The list isn't truly horrifying. Ramczyk and McGary are quite good. And guys like Dawkins, Moton, O'Neill, Goedeke and Brown out of the 2nd would all be fantastic assets for us as cheap, above average starting tackles.

I think we can get a guy that's good enough at the position from 32. But we have to identify/coach them up better than most. And we probably have to be a little patient. Obviously the hit rate is far higher at the top, but that's to be expected at essentially any position. There do appear to be a fair number of pretty good starting OTs that come from the back of the 1st and beyond.
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Old 04-18-2024, 03:44 PM   #2720
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I highly doubt a team picking at 32 is just saying "we'll take the best LT available".

If Rickey is on top of it, and they are truly dead set on a LT in the 1st, they must be preparing to go up and get their guy.
This tackle class is the best one in a long time to it makes sense.

The Athletic show was talking about tackles and one guy they said could fall to about 20 is Fataunu. Most expect Alt, Fashanu, Latham and Fuaga to go before him but he’s athletic as hell and started at LT ever year at Washington.

Only major con is he’s 6’4” which to me isn’t really a big negative
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Old 04-18-2024, 03:47 PM   #2721
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32 to 10 is just gonna.....shit it's gonna be expensive.
It costs so much to do it. It makes sense when you're going after a franchise QB, but at LT is so much more limited in what he can do for your team. I'll be pretty shocked if we make a deal to trade up this far for a LT. It wouldn't surprise me at all to trade up to get one, but up to #10 is something like our 1st pick this year, our second pick this year, and our first pick next year. Maybe more.

We could trade up to #16 this year with this year's first, this year's second, and next year's second. Maybe.
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Hypothetically speaking here, if Worthy or Thomas Jr was there at 32 who do you take?
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Hypothetically speaking here, if Worthy or Thomas Jr was there at 32 who do you take?
Thomas Jr.

I like Worthy and think that he has better ability to run routes than his critics suggest. But Thomas Jr. is just so damn complete.

Worthy doesn't come down with the ball as often as you'd like in contested, difficult situations, which is why he's a 2nd round guy imo (not saying he wont go in the 1st, but i think he's 2nd round kinda guy)

Thomas Jr....i struggle to find any holes in his game. /Shrug.

Thomas Jr. is a CP draft forum wet dream. CPDF will let out a collective sigh heard across all of Chiefs Kingdom when he inevitably comes off the board.
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I like him just not at 32 lol
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This tackle class is the best one in a long time to it makes sense.

The Athletic show was talking about tackles and one guy they said could fall to about 20 is Fataunu. Most expect Alt, Fashanu, Latham and Fuaga to go before him but he’s athletic as hell and started at LT ever year at Washington.

Only major con is he’s 6’4” which to me isn’t really a big negative
But how many are left tackles is the thing. Plenty of projection but how much sure fire built for the left side guys? 3-4?
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