NFL Draft Paxton Lynch - Page 18

O.city · 10-17-2015, 11:48 AM

Qb from Memphis, on ABC right now against Ole miss.

He's endorsed by Sacofbats so, take caution, but I'm intrigued

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-25-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Ok. Well the 0 people who attended KU games this year will be able to weigh in equally as well.

I attended the KU game.

He attended the BG game.

He has one opinion.

I have one opinion.

I missed the part where he represents the entire following of BG...?

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-25-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

We talking about the Bowling Green game where he went 29 of 40 for 386 yards with 3 TDs and no INTs?

Exactly...

I don't think he really watched the game.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I've seen him in games on TV a few times and never came away thinking he was scared in the pocket. Quite the contrary. He seems poised and does well moving around to buy time.

What made you come away thinking he was playing scared from watching him live?

In this game.. ONLY game I saw live and in person. If BG DL made a push at all he would quickly dump it off even though he had guys coming open past 10 yards. He also rarely took his eyes off the dump off receivers. He was very conservative with his passes. He looked like he was always expecting pressure even if it wasn't there. Most of his big plays came from when he left pocket early and someone slipped open bc they caught BG playing flat footed.

Maybe I am passing judgment based on one game.
I have watched several QBs come in and light us up more than he did. His stats were good but I was expecting more against our bad secondary other than dumpoffs. Was it bc he doesn't trust his WRs.

I have watched tape where he looks great. But seeing him person I thought he would different. At one point I had him as my #1 QB.

I think he could develop into a good QB. On that note he is great at rolling out.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-25-2016, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

We talking about the Bowling Green game where he went 29 of 40 for 386 yards with 3 TDs and no INTs?

To be fair, I saw several BG games last year and have seen many over the last several years. After Clawson left their defense went in the shitter. It was never Power 5 good, but it was respectable at times. Dino Babers installed an Air Raid system, and although they scored a ton of points and racked up a lot of yards, their D was an atrocity.

I would call this the Baylor Corollary: A college QB can put up good stats against a bad defense and still play a pretty shitty game.

Coogs · 03-25-2016, 01:06 PM

ESPN piece this morning did not do Lynch any favors when it came to his ability to pre-snap identify the defense.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Show me where anyone has said anything other than drafting him and letting him sit and develop.

If the plan is to draft him and have him develop then yes it is a good pick.. if the goal is to draft him and have him come in and start year 1 or 2 then it is a bad idea.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

To be fair, I saw several BG games last year and have seen many over the last several years. After Clawson left their defense went in the shitter. It was never Power 5 good, but it was respectable at times. Dino Babers installed an Air Raid system, and although they scored a ton of points and racked up a lot of yards, their D was an atrocity.

I would call this the Baylor Corollary: A college QB can put up good stats against a bad defense and still play a pretty shitty game.

This... almost every QB comes in a puts up a lot of yards up against us. For 2 reasons. 1. Offense scores fast or gets off field quickly. 2. Our secondary is really bad.

As a guy who attended BG you come in and expect the opposing QB to have a career day

**The Franchise** · 03-25-2016, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brucey_72

If the plan is to draft him and have him develop then yes it is a good pick.. if the goal is to draft him and have him come in and start year 1 or 2 then it is a bad idea.

Have you not been reading? That's been the plan all along.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 01:25 PM

It was weird, as soon as he left the pocket his confidence seemed to rise and he turned into a beast. Maybe that is why he escaped clean pockets. Also I must say he has sneaky athleticism. I am going to go back and watch the game. In person you miss certain things but notice certain things like him missing a streaking WR.

If KC gets him I will root for him.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Have you not been reading? That's been the plan all along.

Well that changes things.. I saw a lot of people saying that you need a upgrade at QB. Which I took as people wanting to draft Lynch and have him start right away.

**The Franchise** · 03-25-2016, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brucey_72

Well that changes things.. I saw a lot of people saying that you need a upgrade at QB. Which I took as people wanting to draft Lynch and have him start right away.

Nope. We need an upgrade at QB....but not until Lynch sits and develops. Smith can hold down the fort for another couple of years.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Nope. We need an upgrade at QB....but not until Lynch sits and develops. Smith can hold down the fort for another couple of years.

ok that makes sense.. I took this thread as a lets replace Smith now thread. With all the hate for Smith on this board, I always assume that.

My entire argument was he is not ready to come in and start. That would actually hurt your Super Bowl chances. Under the right QB and coach he develop into a good QB. If he starts before year 3 he will be a bust

I would still draft Jackson if he is there at #28.

brucey_72 · 03-25-2016, 02:21 PM

All right guys I went and watched the BG game and will admit I was wrong on a few things. Was correct on the fact that he threw dumpoffs when he had guys open.

Now I can see that a lot of the plays where I thought were him escaping pocket too soon were actually designed roll outs. They just took long to develop. 2. A lot of those dumpoffs were designed.

I will no longer break down a game by sitting in the student section at BG. Which leaves a lot of blind spots since it's so close to the field at basically on the 25 yard line.

That being said something's were accurate. Him missing open receivers coming open and choosing dumpoffs. Should have thrown a couple interceptions. Also he didn't throw ball down field much. Which is BGs biggest weakness. Don't know if that was bad coaching or him missing guys. I do remember seeing WRs with 5 yards of separation streaking down the field and him dumping it off

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-06-2016, 11:54 AM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...ing-at-pro-day

2016 NFL Draft: Lynch powers through strong winds, impressing at pro day
By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
April 6, 2016 10:47 am PT

Despite howling crosswinds in the 30-40 miles per hour range, Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch was on point and impressed during his 75+ throw pro day on Wednesday.

Originally scheduled for 1 p.m. on the Tigers' practice field, the scripted throwing session was moved up half an hour due to the violent winds. However, the strong gusts were no match for Lynch's rocket arm strength as he showed off his power velocity to all levels of the field from flat-outs to deep posts. The Memphis wide receivers didn't do him many favors with several drops, but for the most part Lynch's passes were accurate and gave his targets a chance to make plays. When one of his throws was off-target, it was due to slight issues with his footwork.

Lynch has light feet and showed that on boots and rollouts, but his stride mechanics were not as crisp, which led to some placement issues. And that matches the tape. Lynch has all the physical traits from a size/arm strength/mobility perspective, but the technique is still a work-in-progress. And it starts from the ground up, refining his footwork and then tweaking his hips and shoulders to properly deliver strikes.

“I feel very confident from where I was to where I am now (since Combine),” said Lynch after his workout about his footwork. “I just wanted to show these teams what I could do in the short amount of time.”

There were 26 teams on-hand for the workout, including San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Wisenhunt, Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Greg Roman and several quarterback coaches from around the league. According to several reports, the Bills, who currently own the No. 19 selection in the first round, dined with Lynch Tuesday night.

Lynch measured 6-6 5/8-inches and 244 pounds with 34 1/4-inch hands. He focused on throwing at the pro day, standing on most of his numbers from the NFL Combine, including a 4.86 40-yard dash. Lynch also had impressive numbers in the vertical (36-inches), broad jump (9-feet-10), short shuttle (4.26) and three-cone drill (7.14).

It wasn't an ideal setting due to the weather, but Lynch didn't allow the elements to disrupt his workout and secured his spot as one of the top-three quarterbacks in this draft class. Where will he land on draft day? That's the mystery, but it will be tough for a quarterback-needy team in the mid-first round, like the Los Angeles Rams, to pass on his talent.

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There's no chance this guy makes it to #28.

staylor26 · 04-06-2016, 11:57 AM

Agreed Dane. Even if he somehow gets into the 20's, the Broncos will trade up to secure him IMO.

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03-25-2016, 01:25 PM	#264
brucey_72 Starter Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10007751	It was weird, as soon as he left the pocket his confidence seemed to rise and he turned into a beast. Maybe that is why he escaped clean pockets. Also I must say he has sneaky athleticism. I am going to go back and watch the game. In person you miss certain things but notice certain things like him missing a streaking WR. If KC gets him I will root for him.
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03-25-2016, 02:21 PM	#268
brucey_72 Starter Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10007751	All right guys I went and watched the BG game and will admit I was wrong on a few things. Was correct on the fact that he threw dumpoffs when he had guys open. Now I can see that a lot of the plays where I thought were him escaping pocket too soon were actually designed roll outs. They just took long to develop. 2. A lot of those dumpoffs were designed. I will no longer break down a game by sitting in the student section at BG. Which leaves a lot of blind spots since it's so close to the field at basically on the 25 yard line. That being said something's were accurate. Him missing open receivers coming open and choosing dumpoffs. Should have thrown a couple interceptions. Also he didn't throw ball down field much. Which is BGs biggest weakness. Don't know if that was bad coaching or him missing guys. I do remember seeing WRs with 5 yards of separation streaking down the field and him dumping it off
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04-06-2016, 11:54 AM	#269
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/n...ing-at-pro-day 2016 NFL Draft: Lynch powers through strong winds, impressing at pro day By Dane Brugler \| NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst April 6, 2016 10:47 am PT Despite howling crosswinds in the 30-40 miles per hour range, Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch was on point and impressed during his 75+ throw pro day on Wednesday. Originally scheduled for 1 p.m. on the Tigers' practice field, the scripted throwing session was moved up half an hour due to the violent winds. However, the strong gusts were no match for Lynch's rocket arm strength as he showed off his power velocity to all levels of the field from flat-outs to deep posts. The Memphis wide receivers didn't do him many favors with several drops, but for the most part Lynch's passes were accurate and gave his targets a chance to make plays. When one of his throws was off-target, it was due to slight issues with his footwork. Lynch has light feet and showed that on boots and rollouts, but his stride mechanics were not as crisp, which led to some placement issues. And that matches the tape. Lynch has all the physical traits from a size/arm strength/mobility perspective, but the technique is still a work-in-progress. And it starts from the ground up, refining his footwork and then tweaking his hips and shoulders to properly deliver strikes. “I feel very confident from where I was to where I am now (since Combine),” said Lynch after his workout about his footwork. “I just wanted to show these teams what I could do in the short amount of time.” There were 26 teams on-hand for the workout, including San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Wisenhunt, Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Greg Roman and several quarterback coaches from around the league. According to several reports, the Bills, who currently own the No. 19 selection in the first round, dined with Lynch Tuesday night. Lynch measured 6-6 5/8-inches and 244 pounds with 34 1/4-inch hands. He focused on throwing at the pro day, standing on most of his numbers from the NFL Combine, including a 4.86 40-yard dash. Lynch also had impressive numbers in the vertical (36-inches), broad jump (9-feet-10), short shuttle (4.26) and three-cone drill (7.14). It wasn't an ideal setting due to the weather, but Lynch didn't allow the elements to disrupt his workout and secured his spot as one of the top-three quarterbacks in this draft class. Where will he land on draft day? That's the mystery, but it will be tough for a quarterback-needy team in the mid-first round, like the Los Angeles Rams, to pass on his talent. ---- There's no chance this guy makes it to #28.
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $-1870960	Agreed Dane. Even if he somehow gets into the 20's, the Broncos will trade up to secure him IMO.
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