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04:10 PM

How can you guys be fans of a clearly racist team? Teams like the 'Redskins' and the 'Chiefs' are clearly depicting American Indians in an inappropriate manner. As if the white man has not done enough damage to the Indian culture and heritage, football teams like the Chiefs must portray Indians and their mascot and portray American Indians in a demoralizing manner.

The US would never stand for team names like the 'Honkies', 'Spooks', 'RagHeads', 'WOPs', or 'Slants'. Why then should we be subjected to the desecration of the American Indian?

By simply supporting this, what I consider to be a criminal organization, you are backing the negative portrayal of the American Indian. Therefore, I consider you not Chiefs fans, but racists. The path to Arrowhead Stadium is truly a Trail of Tears.

Mi_chief_fan · 08-01-2001, 08:21 PM

Editor in CHIEF

Hank · 08-01-2001, 08:21 PM

This reminds me of something I read a few years ago:

'In this era of "Political Correctness" and "enlightenment"
some sports team names are being examined. I feel that the current public awareness of these issues needs to be heightened. Let me share the following list of "offensive" team names:

- Offensive to non-Christians
New Orleans Saints, California Angels,
San Diego Padres, Arizona Cardinals,
St. Louis Cardinals
- Promotes stealing
Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Pittsburgh Pirates,
Oakland Raiders
- Promotes alcoholism
Milwaukee Brewers
- Offensive to Native Americans
Chicago Blackhawks, Kansas City Chiefs,
Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians
- Offensive to Southerners
New York Yankees
- Offensive to singles
Minnesota Twins
- Promotes aristocracy and inequality
Kansas City Royals, Sacramento Kings,
Los Angeles Kings
- Promotes superstition
Orlando Magic
- Offensive to the height-challenged
New York Giants, San Francisco Giants
- Offensive to fans of other musical styles
Utah Jazz, St. Louis Blues
- Anti-British
Philadelphia 76ers, New England Patriots
- Promotes violence
Washington Bullets, Buffalo Sabres,
Golden State Warriors
- Promotes violence against animals
San Antonio Spurs
- Promotes anti-social behavior
Dallas Mavericks, Tampa Bay Rowdies
- Offensive to propeller-powered planes
New York Jets
- Offensive to other colors
Cleveland Browns
- Offensive to other metals
Pittsburgh Steelers
- Anti-environment
Houston Oilers
- Pro-electricity
San Diego Chargers, Tampa Bay Lightning
- Promotes white male WASP stereotypes
Dallas Cowboys
- Offensive to landlubbers
Los Angeles Clippers, Seattle Mariners
- Pro-Scandinavian
Minnesota Vikings
- Pro-Irish
Boston Celtics
- Promotes greed
San Francisco 49ers, Denver Nuggets
- Pro-Canadian
Montreal Canadiens, Vancouver Canucks,
Toronto Maple Leafs
- Offensive to the ground-bound
Philadelphia Flyers
- Pro-government
Washington Capitals
- Promotes mindless killing
Toronto Raptors
- Anti-night
Phoenix Suns
- Pro-Disney
Anaheim Mighty Ducks
- Promotes police brutality
New York Rangers, Texas Rangers
- Offensive to slower planes
Seattle Supersonics
- Promotes forest fires
Portland Trail Blazers
- Offensive to fashion-impaired
Chicago White Sox, Boston Red Sox
- Offensive to mountain-impaired states
Colorado Rockies
- Promotes foreign automobiles
Jacksonville Jaguars
- Promotes 4-wheel drive automobiles
Denver Broncos
- Offensive to anyone not named William
Buffalo Bills
- Offensive to Type-B personalities
Oakland A's
- Offensive to the former hometowns of these teams
Los Angeles Dodgers,
Los Angeles Lakers
- Offensive to mainlanders
New York Islanders
- Promotes global warming
Miami Heat
- Pro-French
Cleveland Cavaliers
- Pro-Satan
New Jersey Devils
- Promotes Hollywood values
Dallas Stars

Hank~

aturnis · 08-01-2001, 08:22 PM

I heard that Pearlman has some crazy fetishes which include dressing as an indian chief and playing cowboys and indians with Falstaff....

keg in kc · 08-01-2001, 08:23 PM

I can't believe you guys are still wasting time on this.

I guess it's an annual troll right-of-passage or something...

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-01-2001, 08:24 PM

aturnis,

Tough call.

Wolverine would slash the poop out of Batman, but then Robin would back his *** up.

Michael Michigan · 08-01-2001, 08:24 PM

Posted by personality # 2--Pearl Man-

... Then the you can run threads discussing the sad reality of yet another long, losing season in ole KC...

Posted by personality # 1 falstaff-

Your team is lousy. They will be terrible again this year.

In the words of Paul Simon--

"Who do, who do you think you're fooling?"

How about three---think you can release a third personality?

08-01-2001, 08:25 PM

Nice...nice...calling us homosexuals....I suppose you are adding fuel to the fire....you really ARE RACISTS

stevieray · 08-01-2001, 08:25 PM

Apache Helicopter

Jeep Cherokee

Blackhawk Helicopter

Chief of State

Chief of Staff

Joint Chiefs of Staff

Fire Chief

Pearl Man · 08-01-2001, 08:26 PM

I'm getting very tired of reading posts with the definition of the word chief... It is the connotation of the word that is relevant... In the case of the lame football team that plays in KC it is used in the context of the American Indian as the previously described symbolism attests...

Mi_chief_fan · 08-01-2001, 08:27 PM

Eating 'Crow'?

Getting 'Siouxed'?

Can't those be classified as Indian slurs?

aturnis · 08-01-2001, 08:27 PM

Homophobic, there is a difference Falstaff......

Mi_chief_fan · 08-01-2001, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pearl Man
I'm getting very tired of reading posts with the definition of the word chief... It is the connotation of the word that is relevant... In the case of the lame football team that plays in KC it is used in the context of the American Indian as the previously described symbolism attests...

Like we've said all along dufus, it has NOTHING to do with demeaning Native Americans, but more to do with the man nicknamed 'Chief' that brought the team to KC.

Sheesh, try READING the posts sometime.

08-01-2001, 08:30 PM

You are all idiots. I fail to see why describing why 'Chiefs' is offensive for the 50th time will make a difference.

I suppose you are secure in your one-sided closed in world. It is a shame that you are not only closed minded politically, but, it seems the driving force of your lives is cheering for one of the worst teams in the NFL. The players, coaching and managment of the Chiefs has ALWAYS been sub-par. I suggest you all read a book or spend time with you families rather than piss you time away supporting a losing, racist organization.

Tomahawk 11 · 08-01-2001, 08:30 PM

VIKINGS. I think all the VIKINGS were white. At least I have never seen a Native American Viking. The Raiders are all white guys. At least the faces on the side of their helmets are white.

By the way Falstaff. I am going to help you out here. Since you don't want to be racist or a hypocrit, you need to start calling me and everyone on the planet by their true ethnicity. I am a German, English, Irish, Native American, American. You better start walking the walk, Or else I will cry.

Here is another thing for you. I have a few friends that happen to be black that are from Haiti. Yet, every time someone wants to be "politically correct" they call them African Americans. I also have an African American friend that is White. Is it not demeaning to the whites in Africa that the Politically Correct Camp has labeled their entire continent as being black.

Here is the kicker for me. I am a NATIVE AMERICAN. Yes, I have Cherokee indian blood (very small amount), but what I am referring too is the fact that I was born and raised and currently live in America just like you. There are millions of people from all races that are just the same, yet the term Native American is reserved for your race. I am the White guy. The politically correct camp has totally outsmarted itself.

Raiderhater · 08-01-2001, 08:30 PM

Alright, I haven't read any of the posts on this thread, I am merely responding to the topic starter.

Falstaff,
I wonder if you could clear up something for me, how is the word Chiefs in any shape manner or form racist? Clearly some of the examples you gave are racist, but I have never considered chief to be one of those derogatory terms. Let us be realistic, when some one wants to derogatory to an Italian they call them a wop, if a black it is the "n word", but how many times have you heard the term chief in a derogatory manner? "Listen to me you dirty chief!" You just don't get that very often (dare I say at all?).

If you and the other half wits out there on this ridiculous warpath (pun indeed intended) would stop and think that perhaps it is a for honor to these people, you might actually get on the right track. Think about it, Indians were great warriors, chiefs were ussually the greatest warriors in the tribe, so we are taking their name so that when people think of the Chiefs, they think of mighty warriors. It is an honor, not a form of racism.

BTW, what team are you a fan of? Just curious as to why you would be hanging out with a bunch of "racists".

08-01-2001, 04:06 PM
falstaff Guest Casino cash: $	Chiefs are racist How can you guys be fans of a clearly racist team? Teams like the 'Redskins' and the 'Chiefs' are clearly depicting American Indians in an inappropriate manner. As if the white man has not done enough damage to the Indian culture and heritage, football teams like the Chiefs must portray Indians and their mascot and portray American Indians in a demoralizing manner. The US would never stand for team names like the 'Honkies', 'Spooks', 'RagHeads', 'WOPs', or 'Slants'. Why then should we be subjected to the desecration of the American Indian? By simply supporting this, what I consider to be a criminal organization, you are backing the negative portrayal of the American Indian. Therefore, I consider you not Chiefs fans, but racists. The path to Arrowhead Stadium is truly a Trail of Tears. Last edited by falstaff; 08-01-2001 at 04:10 PM..
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08-01-2001, 08:21 PM	#257
Hank Duck & cover Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Show Me Casino cash: $10009800	This reminds me of something I read a few years ago: 'In this era of "Political Correctness" and "enlightenment" some sports team names are being examined. I feel that the current public awareness of these issues needs to be heightened. Let me share the following list of "offensive" team names: - Offensive to non-Christians New Orleans Saints, California Angels, San Diego Padres, Arizona Cardinals, St. Louis Cardinals - Promotes stealing Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Pittsburgh Pirates, Oakland Raiders - Promotes alcoholism Milwaukee Brewers - Offensive to Native Americans Chicago Blackhawks, Kansas City Chiefs, Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians - Offensive to Southerners New York Yankees - Offensive to singles Minnesota Twins - Promotes aristocracy and inequality Kansas City Royals, Sacramento Kings, Los Angeles Kings - Promotes superstition Orlando Magic - Offensive to the height-challenged New York Giants, San Francisco Giants - Offensive to fans of other musical styles Utah Jazz, St. Louis Blues - Anti-British Philadelphia 76ers, New England Patriots - Promotes violence Washington Bullets, Buffalo Sabres, Golden State Warriors - Promotes violence against animals San Antonio Spurs - Promotes anti-social behavior Dallas Mavericks, Tampa Bay Rowdies - Offensive to propeller-powered planes New York Jets - Offensive to other colors Cleveland Browns - Offensive to other metals Pittsburgh Steelers - Anti-environment Houston Oilers - Pro-electricity San Diego Chargers, Tampa Bay Lightning - Promotes white male WASP stereotypes Dallas Cowboys - Offensive to landlubbers Los Angeles Clippers, Seattle Mariners - Pro-Scandinavian Minnesota Vikings - Pro-Irish Boston Celtics - Promotes greed San Francisco 49ers, Denver Nuggets - Pro-Canadian Montreal Canadiens, Vancouver Canucks, Toronto Maple Leafs - Offensive to the ground-bound Philadelphia Flyers - Pro-government Washington Capitals - Promotes mindless killing Toronto Raptors - Anti-night Phoenix Suns - Pro-Disney Anaheim Mighty Ducks - Promotes police brutality New York Rangers, Texas Rangers - Offensive to slower planes Seattle Supersonics - Promotes forest fires Portland Trail Blazers - Offensive to fashion-impaired Chicago White Sox, Boston Red Sox - Offensive to mountain-impaired states Colorado Rockies - Promotes foreign automobiles Jacksonville Jaguars - Promotes 4-wheel drive automobiles Denver Broncos - Offensive to anyone not named William Buffalo Bills - Offensive to Type-B personalities Oakland A's - Offensive to the former hometowns of these teams Los Angeles Dodgers, Los Angeles Lakers - Offensive to mainlanders New York Islanders - Promotes global warming Miami Heat - Pro-French Cleveland Cavaliers - Pro-Satan New Jersey Devils - Promotes Hollywood values Dallas Stars Hank~
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08-01-2001, 08:22 PM	#258
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08-01-2001, 08:23 PM	#259
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08-01-2001, 08:24 PM	#260
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08-01-2001, 08:24 PM	#261
Michael Michigan scribe Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Posted by personality # 2--Pearl Man- ... Then the you can run threads discussing the sad reality of yet another long, losing season in ole KC... Posted by personality # 1 falstaff- Your team is lousy. They will be terrible again this year. In the words of Paul Simon-- "Who do, who do you think you're fooling?" How about three---think you can release a third personality?
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08-01-2001, 08:25 PM	#262
falstaff Guest Casino cash: $	Nice...nice...calling us homosexuals....I suppose you are adding fuel to the fire....you really ARE RACISTS
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08-01-2001, 08:25 PM	#263
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08-01-2001, 08:26 PM	#264
Pearl Man Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	I'm getting very tired of reading posts with the definition of the word chief... It is the connotation of the word that is relevant... In the case of the lame football team that plays in KC it is used in the context of the American Indian as the previously described symbolism attests...
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08-01-2001, 08:27 PM	#265
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08-01-2001, 08:27 PM	#266
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08-01-2001, 08:30 PM	#268
falstaff Guest Casino cash: $	You are all idiots. I fail to see why describing why 'Chiefs' is offensive for the 50th time will make a difference. I suppose you are secure in your one-sided closed in world. It is a shame that you are not only closed minded politically, but, it seems the driving force of your lives is cheering for one of the worst teams in the NFL. The players, coaching and managment of the Chiefs has ALWAYS been sub-par. I suggest you all read a book or spend time with you families rather than piss you time away supporting a losing, racist organization.
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08-01-2001, 08:30 PM	#269
Tomahawk 11 Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: 10-20? Casino cash: $10004900	VIKINGS. I think all the VIKINGS were white. At least I have never seen a Native American Viking. The Raiders are all white guys. At least the faces on the side of their helmets are white. By the way Falstaff. I am going to help you out here. Since you don't want to be racist or a hypocrit, you need to start calling me and everyone on the planet by their true ethnicity. I am a German, English, Irish, Native American, American. You better start walking the walk, Or else I will cry. Here is another thing for you. I have a few friends that happen to be black that are from Haiti. Yet, every time someone wants to be "politically correct" they call them African Americans. I also have an African American friend that is White. Is it not demeaning to the whites in Africa that the Politically Correct Camp has labeled their entire continent as being black. Here is the kicker for me. I am a NATIVE AMERICAN. Yes, I have Cherokee indian blood (very small amount), but what I am referring too is the fact that I was born and raised and currently live in America just like you. There are millions of people from all races that are just the same, yet the term Native American is reserved for your race. I am the White guy. The politically correct camp has totally outsmarted itself. __________________ T-11. "Never mess with the bull youngman, you'll get the horns!"
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08-01-2001, 08:30 PM	#270
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $372021	Alright, I haven't read any of the posts on this thread, I am merely responding to the topic starter. Falstaff, I wonder if you could clear up something for me, how is the word Chiefs in any shape manner or form racist? Clearly some of the examples you gave are racist, but I have never considered chief to be one of those derogatory terms. Let us be realistic, when some one wants to derogatory to an Italian they call them a wop, if a black it is the "n word", but how many times have you heard the term chief in a derogatory manner? "Listen to me you dirty chief!" You just don't get that very often (dare I say at all?). If you and the other half wits out there on this ridiculous warpath (pun indeed intended) would stop and think that perhaps it is a for honor to these people, you might actually get on the right track. Think about it, Indians were great warriors, chiefs were ussually the greatest warriors in the tribe, so we are taking their name so that when people think of the Chiefs, they think of mighty warriors. It is an honor, not a form of racism. BTW, what team are you a fan of? Just curious as to why you would be hanging out with a bunch of "racists". __________________ "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules." -- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
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