*****The Joshua Williams Thread*****

[Dante84]

More to come!

[Dark Horse]

Originally Posted by Sofa King

Philip Gaines

If you don't flinch when you see that name....

Flinch? or wipe away a tear and go call your mom.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Right?

Breeland was awfully good for us in that SB run. I mean we're spoiled by the insanity we got this year, but Breeland was a big part of that championship. I believe he had the first interception off Grapes, no? And am almost positive he had the pass defensed that gave us the win over the Patriots in the regular season that eventually secured the bye and HFA.

Breeland deserves nothing but love 'round here. He was a good player for us.

Scandrick, OTOH, was so ****ing bad that he talks trash on us anytime he gets a television spot as a way to deflect blame from how ungodly awful he was. That dude can get ass cancer.

Yep, he also had that 100-yard fumble return TD in Detroit early in 2019 that completely changed the complexion of that game.

Some dude in another thread here was bitching about Charvarious Ward not making any memorable plays, Breeland is basically the exact opposite of that. They were both good corners for us. Ward was typically more steady on a per snap basis while Breeland had some low lows with some insanely high highs.

I’m not going to talk shit about either one. It’s not like they were Philip Gaines or Dunta Robinson out there.

[Sofa King]

What the hell happened to this guy? I expected him to be the #2 this year but he's not even seeing the field until injuries at the very end. Rolland-Wallace and Nazeeh are playing over him, as well as Watson.

Did this guy bang the owners daughters or something?

[Dunerdr]

No he just seems to get lost a lot.

[UChieffyBugger]

So with Watson out and Johnson questionable this week, Joshua is gonna be the main guy and he was even put down as the CB 2 on the unofficial depth chart the other day.

I know folks would love to see us get another CB before the deadline but if that doesn't transpire then my question is why can't we have faith in Joshua?

1. He's been in the system for two years already.

2. Has experience at the highest level and even has an interception in an AFC game.

3. All the physical tools are there. Height, good speed and quick feet. Can tackle

It's just a matter of seeing him get a run now and hopefully he can step up like Watson did.

Here are Joshua's PFF grades from last season.

He allowed 10 receptions for 80 yards on 236 coverage snaps. He was ranked the 36th best CB during the regular season.

In the playoffs he was the 8th ranked CB and allowed two catches.

No doubt playing backup snaps probably played a role in these rankings but they are encouraging nonetheless.

Against the Raiders he had some penalties but wasn't beaten much. Hope to see him put in a better performance on Monday.

[Dunerdr]

Did this Cb2 live close to you?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So with Watson out and Johnson questionable this week, Joshua is gonna be the main guy and he was even put down as the CB 2 on the unofficial depth chart the other day.

I know folks would love to see us get another CB before the deadline but if that doesn't transpire then my question is why can't we have faith in Joshua?

1. He's been in the system for two years already.

2. Has experience at the highest level and even has an interception in an AFC game.

3. All the physical tools are there. Height, good speed and quick feet. Can tackle

It's just a matter of seeing him get a run now and hopefully he can step up like Watson did.

Here are Joshua's PFF grades from last season.

He allowed 10 receptions for 80 yards on 236 coverage snaps. He was ranked the 36th best CB during the regular season.

In the playoffs he was the 8th ranked CB and allowed two catches.

No doubt playing backup snaps probably played a role in these rankings but they are encouraging nonetheless.

Against the Raiders he had some penalties but wasn't beaten much. Hope to see him put in a better performance on Monday.

He's an absolute liability in coverage. Has William Bartee syndrome.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by TLO

He's an absolute liability in coverage. Has William Bartee syndrome.

Pff says that's a lie.

[kcgreene]

This is Williams time to shine baby!!!

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by TLO

He's an absolute liability in coverage. Has William Bartee syndrome.

He was pretty dang good last year, no idea where you came to this conclusion. I think you forgot how bad Bartee actually was and how good Williams was last season.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Pff says that's a lie.

PFF is garbage.

Originally Posted by Marcellus

He was pretty dang good last year, no idea where you came to this conclusion. I think you forgot how bad Bartee actually was and how good Williams was last season.

Williams is going to get absolutely exposed with prolonged playing time. I hope Johnson is able to come back soon.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by TLO

He's an absolute liability in coverage. Has William Bartee syndrome.

Do you actually remember how terrible Bartee was? Williams isn't even close to that level of ineptitude.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by crispystl

Do you actually remember how terrible Bartee was? Williams isn't even close to that level of ineptitude.

I'm not comparing him to Bartee like player to player. I'm referring to William Bartee syndrome as him never turning his head around.

[crispystl]

Originally Posted by crispystl

Do you actually remember how terrible Bartee was? Williams isn't even close to that level of ineptitude.

Ohh gotcha! That makes sense. I thought it was Rolland Wallace that was having trouble getting his head around though, no? Seemed like Williams was just getting a little too handsy.

[BossChief]

Bartee should have never been a corner. He was a good safety in college and after he showed them he couldn’t play corner, the coaching staff should have moved him back there where the need to get his head turned would have been mitigated.

It’s what makes me even more appreciative of Spags…that time period where we drafted a few safeties to play corner was hard to watch.

Even when Warfield was an ok corner, I’ll always wonder how good of a safety he could have been.

Bartee and Warfiekd should have both been safeties for us.