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Old 04-27-2024, 11:38 AM  
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Old 08-14-2024, 04:51 PM   #256
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I didn't realize that Jody Fortson made the 2022 offense so dynamic, here I thought it was Ronald Jones.
I really was thinking about how unpredictable and versatile that offense was, and how the 13 set was a key part of that. Edited.
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Old 08-14-2024, 07:04 PM   #257
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Old 08-21-2024, 02:31 PM   #258
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He didn't really pop in camp, not sure how ready he really is to do much as a rookie.
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He didn't really pop in camp, not sure how ready he really is to do much as a rookie.
Maybe that's a good sign. Guys who "pop" in camp often end up on the practice squad or playing in a different league. Give me "reliable and physically capable" over camp hype any day of the week.
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He didn't really pop in camp, not sure how ready he really is to do much as a rookie.
He has plenty of highlighted catches.
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He's playing TE with the 1s his rookie year when the team already has Travis Kelce and a pretty established player in Noah Gray.

This is the position that has had two 1000 yard rookies since 1960: Mike Ditka and Kyle Pitts. And I think we all know that Pitts was force fed all of his yards.

He'll probably do as much as most rookie TEs do, particularly among guys who aren't the main TE.
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He's playing TE with the 1s his rookie year when the team already has Travis Kelce and a pretty established player in Noah Gray.

This is the position that has had two 1000 yard rookies since 1960: Mike Ditka and Kyle Pitts. And I think we all know that Pitts was force fed all of his yards.

He'll probably do as much as most rookie TEs do, particularly among guys who aren't the main TE.
I think the fact he walked in and began forcing looks in the TE2 role OVER Gray is pretty telling.

They wouldn't be doing that if he wasn't "popping."

He gives them some things Noah Gray can't, namely a big, seam-stretcher who is a vertical threat. KC was clearly trying to add that back to the TE room between Wiley and Irv Smith.
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Maybe that's a good sign. Guys who "pop" in camp often end up on the practice squad or playing in a different league. Give me "reliable and physically capable" over camp hype any day of the week.
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I think the fact he walked in and began forcing looks in the TE2 role OVER Gray is pretty telling.

They wouldn't be doing that if he wasn't "popping."

He gives them some things Noah Gray can't, namely a big, seam-stretcher who is a vertical threat. KC was clearly trying to add that back to the TE room between Wiley and Irv Smith.
For better or worse, Andy seems to roll with guys he trusts over guys with upside.

If Wiley is playing over Gray (who is a fine backup and competent NFL player), then it’s safe to be excited.
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It's ok, just let him learn.

I think his impact is roughly what Jody Fortson gave them in 2022.

He’ll create some big plays out 13 personnel. He’ll let them run 12 personnel without Kelce.

But we’re taking more about situational snaps and splash plays this year.


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I think his impact is roughly what Jody Fortson gave them in 2022.

He’ll create some big plays out 13 personnel. He’ll let them run 12 personnel without Kelce.

But we’re taking more about situational snaps and splash plays this year.


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I think it's also reasonable to assume we won't have Kelce for 2-3 games this season.

And I think it's possible that Wiley goes from 3rd to 1st on the depth chart if that happens. Not likely, but if you want bulk snaps at a move TE position, I'm thinking you may be better served to move Wiley into that spot with Gray staying at 2.

If Kelce stays healthy I'm thinking you may see 250 yards and a couple scores on 15-20 catches. Nothing much, but a couple little flashes here and there. But if Kelce goes down, there's a chance you see him go out there for like 6 catches for 85 yards and a tuddy in a game.

I really think Reid will turn this kid into a 1,000 yard receiver someday.
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