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Discussion: All things Broncos.

Pasta Little Brioni · 05-27-2018, 10:52 PM

2-11 last place Denver Broncos.

**Rain Man** · 05-27-2018, 11:27 PM

Today Case Keenum got to the buffet early and called back that there was cheesecake. The guy's such a leader for the rest of the team.

**jjchieffan** · 05-28-2018, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Today Case Keenum got to the buffet early and called back that there was cheesecake. The guy's such a leader for the rest of the team.

But did he shout Omaha in the huddle? And did his forehead double in size? ElFraud has proven that he can't win shit without Manning and HGH.

Tombstone RJ · 05-28-2018, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Today Case Keenum got to the buffet early and called back that there was cheesecake. The guy's such a leader for the rest of the team.

It’s good cheesecake

Pasta Little Brioni · 05-28-2018, 07:48 AM

20 million dollars for Keesum and your GM couldn't even remember his name

Sad

King_Chief_Fan · 05-28-2018, 03:10 PM

It appears we are having a good time laughing at the clown show Broncos. This is some kind of fun

Quesadilla Joe · 05-29-2018, 08:59 AM

#playmaker

Case Keenum made things happen in 2017! pic.twitter.com/hUvtmMO9Jw
— PFF DEN Broncos (@PFF_Broncos) May 29, 2018

Quesadilla Joe · 05-29-2018, 08:59 AM

During the lightning delay, John Elway told me there’s a lot of trust in @casekeenum7 on the football team. They believe he’s a guy that can get it done. He’s shown that so far in OTAs & believes he will get even better as he gets more comfortable with the offense. @DenverChannel pic.twitter.com/S6ldpEayt7
— Alison Mastrangelo (@AlisonM_TV) May 28, 2018

CrossCheck · 05-29-2018, 09:19 AM

Why would the Vikings want to let a quarterback with the ninth highest rating in the NFL hit the market?

It’s a two part answer.

First, concerns that his play would not be sustainable. Prior to joining the Vikings, Keenum had a 78.4 rating. That’s like a .220 career hitter having one season where he bats over .300.

At the NFL Combine, head coach Mike Zimmer laid it out small sample size concerns pretty clearly, saying:

“Is he the guy when he was at Houston or the Rams or is he the guy who played for us? Is it because he had a good team around him?”

There are also deeper numbers that hint at Keenum having a difficult time repeating his 2017 performance. He set career highs while under pressure and against the blitz. It’s possible he simply improved in those situations, but more likely that it was a result of small sample size success.

The were also some key areas where Keenum did not have great numbers. For example, on third-and-long and when he attempted “big-time throws.”

In situations where the Vikings had third down and more than six yards to gain, Keenum averaged 5.8 yards per attempt, which ranked at the very bottom of the NFL among starters. He also posted a 65.2 rating in those situations. Compare that to third-and-short, where the Vikings’ starter had a 107.8 rating.

PFF tracks “big-time throws,” which would be into tight windows or deep down field. Only 4.0 percent of his throws were “big-time throws,” which ranked 20th in the NFL. PFF calculated that he generated the fourth most value from “non-NFL throws” such as swing passes and screens in the league.

On passes that traveled more than 20 yards in the air, he went 11-for-47 with two touchdowns, two interceptions.

He got a lot of help from receivers and running backs after the catch, ranking seventh lowest in air yards per completion. Stefon Diggs ranked No. 1 in completion percentage and QB rating on throws qualified as “contested catches.”

The takeaway being: He might not be able to keep up his 2017 results. Even if he did there might be other QBs whose play could also be elevated by the Vikings’ supporting cast.

Part 2 to the answer is the playoffs and Mike Zimmer’s nightmares.

In the playoffs, Keenum finished with the second lowest rating of any QB in the postseason. Only Tyrod Taylor was lower. While the sample size is very small in the playoffs, his performance could play into a long-term decision because he committed huge turnovers in both playoff starts.

Keenum threw one brutal interception against the Saints that nearly ended the Vikings’ season, and then a key pick-six that let the Eagles back in the NFL Championship game.

It was like Zimmer had already seen the ending.

With his sights set on a Super Bowl, the Vikings’ most influential decision maker may simply want a quarterback he can trust when his team has a 17-7 lead in the postseason. Coaches obsess over “situational football.” Well, the two playoff interceptions were the opposite of playing good situational football.

https://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2...g-case-keenum/

**Rain Man** · 05-29-2018, 09:25 AM

Check out the negative body language of that reporter. Arms crossed, leaning away, not smiling. Why do we think she's got that attitude? Is it...

A. She doesn't like salary cap cheaters.
B. She disapproves of Elway leaving his sick wife to marry a cheerleader.
C. She's a Broncos fan and she sees what Elway is doing to her team.
D. She believes that a team needs a quarterback to thrive and she knows that Elway doesn't get it.
E. She thinks that it's gross to cover yourself in cooking spray when you're just the GM.
F. The smell of bourbon is too strong.
G. All of the above.

**New World Order** · 05-29-2018, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Check out the negative body language of that reporter. Arms crossed, leaning away, not smiling. Why do we think she's got that attitude? Is it...

A. She doesn't like salary cap cheaters.
B. She disapproves of Elway leaving his sick wife to marry a cheerleader.
C. She's a Broncos fan and she sees what Elway is doing to her team.
D. She believes that a team needs a quarterback to thrive and she knows that Elway doesn't get it.
E. She thinks that it's gross to cover yourself in cooking spray when you're just the GM.
F. The smell of bourbon is too strong.
G. All of the above.

I was going to pick F but the rest of those are just too strong to ignore.

G.

Bewbies · 05-29-2018, 10:59 AM

LDT graduated college today, now he's a Dr.

The Broncos have a LT who can barely spell his middle initial, and a QB who is a stud leader because he got the offense all the way into a huddle.

What a time to be alive.

Quesadilla Joe · 05-29-2018, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

What a time to be alive.

Not if you're a QB in the AFC West.

#Broncos OLBs getting work done. A lot of speed and strength in this group. Should write a diary of havoc this season #Denver7 pic.twitter.com/ZjKvfjTnaW
— Troy Renck (@TroyRenck) May 29, 2018

BlackOp · 05-29-2018, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

B. She disapproves of Elway leaving his sick wife to marry a cheerleader.

Horseface is all class....cheats on his sick wife, cheats the cap, plays on the team with the most documented cheating offenses and had Manning hopped up on HGH.

What's interesting...is Manning's numbers dropped from 323 (first 11 games) to 194 during the final six in 2014. The drop off happened around a month after the NFL started testing for HGH. Testing started in October that year.

Despite throwing for 4,700 yards (3rd) and 39 TDs (2nd) in 2014...Horseface and Manning meet for a private dinner. He wanted Manning to take a $5 million dollar paycut...which he does.

Why would you force a HOF QB with those numbers into a paycut?

I think the dinner conversation went something along these lines...

JE: Hows the neck/nerve damage?

PM: Necks fine but I'm losing feeling in my arm again.

JE: Think you can play next year without the HGH?

PM: I dont know.

JE: Well, will you take a paycut? I need to protect myself in case you cant play now. Probably not worth the risk of being caught.

PM: I thought you had those shipments in my wife's name?

JE: No, I mean next year, if you continue taking it. Your past is covered. We went over this when I signed you. NFL cant access your wife's medical records. You're safe.

PM: Wish the NFL would have held off on the testing for another year. I guess I can try to go next year. I cant risk taking it anymore.

JE: OK. We'll reduce your salary by $5 million. I'll have PR spin it as you are taking a cut to help the team. I'll let the owners know this will probably be your last season...see what they can do. Hey, we got you 4 great years out of nowhere, buddy. *toasts wine glasses*

We all watched a QB go from being top 3 and almost 5000/40 to the worst QB in the NFL in less than 8 months....

Quesadilla Joe · 05-29-2018, 11:27 AM

$wag

Chad Kelly throws a dart for a TD to Courtland Sutton. #Broncos
— 104.3 The FAN (@1043TheFan) May 29, 2018

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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3428675	#playmaker Case Keenum made things happen in 2017! pic.twitter.com/hUvtmMO9Jw — PFF DEN Broncos (@PFF_Broncos) May 29, 2018
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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3428675	During the lightning delay, John Elway told me there’s a lot of trust in @casekeenum7 on the football team. They believe he’s a guy that can get it done. He’s shown that so far in OTAs & believes he will get even better as he gets more comfortable with the offense. @DenverChannel pic.twitter.com/S6ldpEayt7 — Alison Mastrangelo (@AlisonM_TV) May 28, 2018
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05-29-2018, 09:19 AM	#26874
CrossCheck Starter Join Date: Aug 2015 Casino cash: $691529	Why would the Vikings want to let a quarterback with the ninth highest rating in the NFL hit the market? It’s a two part answer. First, concerns that his play would not be sustainable. Prior to joining the Vikings, Keenum had a 78.4 rating. That’s like a .220 career hitter having one season where he bats over .300. At the NFL Combine, head coach Mike Zimmer laid it out small sample size concerns pretty clearly, saying: “Is he the guy when he was at Houston or the Rams or is he the guy who played for us? Is it because he had a good team around him?” There are also deeper numbers that hint at Keenum having a difficult time repeating his 2017 performance. He set career highs while under pressure and against the blitz. It’s possible he simply improved in those situations, but more likely that it was a result of small sample size success. The were also some key areas where Keenum did not have great numbers. For example, on third-and-long and when he attempted “big-time throws.” In situations where the Vikings had third down and more than six yards to gain, Keenum averaged 5.8 yards per attempt, which ranked at the very bottom of the NFL among starters. He also posted a 65.2 rating in those situations. Compare that to third-and-short, where the Vikings’ starter had a 107.8 rating. PFF tracks “big-time throws,” which would be into tight windows or deep down field. Only 4.0 percent of his throws were “big-time throws,” which ranked 20th in the NFL. PFF calculated that he generated the fourth most value from “non-NFL throws” such as swing passes and screens in the league. On passes that traveled more than 20 yards in the air, he went 11-for-47 with two touchdowns, two interceptions. He got a lot of help from receivers and running backs after the catch, ranking seventh lowest in air yards per completion. Stefon Diggs ranked No. 1 in completion percentage and QB rating on throws qualified as “contested catches.” The takeaway being: He might not be able to keep up his 2017 results. Even if he did there might be other QBs whose play could also be elevated by the Vikings’ supporting cast. Part 2 to the answer is the playoffs and Mike Zimmer’s nightmares. In the playoffs, Keenum finished with the second lowest rating of any QB in the postseason. Only Tyrod Taylor was lower. While the sample size is very small in the playoffs, his performance could play into a long-term decision because he committed huge turnovers in both playoff starts. Keenum threw one brutal interception against the Saints that nearly ended the Vikings’ season, and then a key pick-six that let the Eagles back in the NFL Championship game. It was like Zimmer had already seen the ending. With his sights set on a Super Bowl, the Vikings’ most influential decision maker may simply want a quarterback he can trust when his team has a 17-7 lead in the postseason. Coaches obsess over “situational football.” Well, the two playoff interceptions were the opposite of playing good situational football. https://www.1500espn.com/vikings-2/2...g-case-keenum/
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05-29-2018, 09:25 AM	#26875
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $1318491 VARSITY	Check out the negative body language of that reporter. Arms crossed, leaning away, not smiling. Why do we think she's got that attitude? Is it... A. She doesn't like salary cap cheaters. B. She disapproves of Elway leaving his sick wife to marry a cheerleader. C. She's a Broncos fan and she sees what Elway is doing to her team. D. She believes that a team needs a quarterback to thrive and she knows that Elway doesn't get it. E. She thinks that it's gross to cover yourself in cooking spray when you're just the GM. F. The smell of bourbon is too strong. G. All of the above. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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05-29-2018, 11:27 AM	#26880
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