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I think Mahomes has tremendous upside... hopefully, he's everything that everyone here hopes he can be. I'm curious if expecations are set right with some, but again - it's all due to the desire to have a drafted home grown QB do well. So, I get it.

Mahomes has a lot of talent around him, he's set up for success, but he will have some ups and downs. If you guys are patient - I think you'll be happy in the long run.

I know much of what's posted in this thread is to drive some crazy, but I would imagine that most are fairly realistic with their expectations. It takes time for QBs to reach that elite level of consistent great production and wins.

I'm curious to see what he does, obviously and wish him the best.
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I think Mahomes has tremendous upside... hopefully, he's everything that everyone here hopes he can be. I'm curious if expecations are set right with some, but again - it's all due to the desire to have a drafted home grown QB do well. So, I get it.



I'm curious to see what he does, obviously and wish him the best.
I'll happily eat crow...I wanted KC to draft a LB (they ultimately signed Ragland). I wasn't happy about the Chiefs moving up for what a lot of pundits viewed as a project QB.

He blew me away in preseason...and I was being hyper-critical of him. I went into it saying "ok, prove to me you are worth a shit"....then I left thinking "this dude looks like a star". So I'm happy to be completely wrong...

and NO...you do not want KC to have an elite QB for a decade. Cut the crap..
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I'll happily eat crow...I wanted KC to draft a LB (they ultimately signed Ragland). I wasn't happy about the Chiefs moving up for what a lot of pundits viewed as a project QB.

He blew me away in preseason...and I was being hyper-critical of him. I went into it saying "ok, prove to me you are worth a shit"....then I left thinking "this dude looks like a star". So I'm happy to be completely wrong...

and NO...you do not want KC to have an elite QB for a decade. Cut the crap..
Think whatever you like... I do enjoy talking trash, but I've said this many times. I don't have some deep hatred that makes me wish that fans of rival teams toil in misery forever. I like watching football. I'm a fan of passing attacks. If KC has found one of the next great QBs, I'll enjoy watching him play and hope Denver pounds him into the ground.

This isn't a passive aggressive double reverse mojo statement. I have a few good friends that are life-long Chiefs' fans and I'd have no problem watching them enjoy great success. Most of you have waited for this moment and have fought through some fairly miserable years with KC. You've earned the right to watch your team win SBs.

All that being said... I'll never cheer for it, but if it happens - it happens and I'll be happy for you guys and take all the bullsh that comes my way for Denver not getting there. It's all part of being a fan.

The NFL needs top young QBs to step up...
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The NFL needs top young QBs to step up...
Still cant believe Horseface passed on Rosen...all the things I listed about about a rookie showing "flashes"...Lynch has shown none of that and it's year 3. He looks lost...his ceiling is an average back-up like Osweiler.

His ego couldn't admit he traded up for a bust....and they are way behind the curve on developing a young QB now.

Swag Kelly doesn't have the mental fortitude to be a franchise QB...you dont just become intelligent overnight. The guy seriously had a beer gut in the off-season...WTF, you are a pro athlete with dietitians and trainers...and trying to make a team.
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Still cant believe Horseface passed on Rosen...all the things I listed about about a rookie showing "flashes"...Lynch has shown none of that and it's year 3. He looks lost...his ceiling is an average back-up like Osweiler.

His ego couldn't admit he traded up for a bust....and they are way behind the curve on developing a young QB now.

Swag Kelly doesn't have the mental fortitude to be a franchise QB...you dont just become intelligent overnight. The guy seriously had a beer gut in the off-season...WTF, you are a pro athlete with dietitians and trainers...and trying to make a team.
We'll find out in a few years if they screwed up.
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What have we found out about Rosen?
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We'll find out in a few years if they screwed up.
They screwed up...there is no doubt in my mind.

When you're drafting 5th without a future QB....you take one, always.

Chubb will be a good player...but it was a weak class for his position. I dont think he broke 10 sacks a season...Ray had 14.5 coming out, Clowney had 13.5, Watt had 21....Miller 17.

He's not a sack artist...and Denver really didn't need him. Ray was hurt last year...
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They screwed up...there is no doubt in my mind.

When you're drafting 5th without a future QB....you take one, always.

Chubb will be a good player...but is was a weak class for his position. I dont think he broke 10 sacks a season...Ray had 14.5 coming out, Clowney had 13.5, Watt had 21.
Yes because we know that quarterbacks selected that High never fail.
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Meatball... my opinion is that I was not all that impressed with the QBs. I was fine with them going elsewhere. I would have preferred them trading with Buf, but it didn’t happen. My opinion on the QBs drafted... one, maybe two will prove worthy of the high pick. They screwed up with Lynch, no doubt.

Rosen? He has proven nothing yet and many questioned him. So yeah, we will see. And that’s not an opinion, that’s a fact.
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Yes because we know that quarterbacks selected that High never fail.
He was considered the best pocket passer in a class where 5 QBs were taken early...accuracy was his strong point. You cant teach that...and Denver was in a perfect position to let him sit for a year.

I'm still kind of dumbfounded that Horseface didn't see the opportunity.

Keesum is a stop-gap...illustrated by only a 2 year deal.
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He was considered the best pocket passer in a class where 5 QBs were taken early...accuracy was his strong point. You cant teach that...and Denver was in a perfect position to let him sit for a year.

I'm still kind of dumbfounded that Horseface didn't see the opportunity.
I’m not disagreeing or saying your comments don’t have merit. I have no regrets, in time, maybe they’re proven to have made a terrible mistake.
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